Next spring...

[gldstwmn]

A few questions...

First of all, who thinks Fleetwood Mac will tour again here in the States next year?
Also, do you think FM is seriously going to have to take a look at revamping the set list if they do this?

My own thoughts... I hope they tour here again next year but PLEASE no sheds. The ticket prices will be outrageous and I much prefer to see them indoors.

I also think that if they want the masses to keep coming out, not just the diehards like ourselves, that they are going to have to dust off some of the long forgotten gems. I wouldn't mind hearing more of Tusk, Mirage, Tango (I know it was a painful period but it's behind them now) and Say You Will. Also, I think a Buckingham Nicks song or two would kill and not necessarily Don't Let Me Down Again. I also wouldn't mind if Lindsey gave Big Love a rest for a while or plugged it in. It's not like they don't have a big enough catalog. Just my .02

[golden braid]

Stevie said in an interview that they are going to tour the States again next year and they are going to play sheds. I think she might have mentioned changing the set list too.

[GardenStateGirlie]

You and I have discussed this before but I'm with you on them touring arenas instead of sheds. In 1997 when they toured, they were at the E-Centre if memory serves and were actually not at the First Union Spectrum on the Center. Ticket prices were incredibly steep and that is why I was unable to go. I don't like that place for ANY concert let alone Fleetwood Mac. The sound gets lost in there and if you're not in the pit or the first few rows behind the pit, they look like peanuts onstage. It will be MUCH harder to get tickets in the pit for these shows IMO. Then again, as I said, I'll take Fleetwood Mac anywhere I can, anytime I can

[dissention]

They'll never change that goddam setlist. Never.

They could pack in Dreams, Big Love, Rhiannon, and Don't Stop and I'd be a happy camper. Anyways, if they introduced something new or rare, they'd drop it after a day or two. after all, this is FM! FM always does the exact opposite of what is sensical, so they'll play sheds.

Lindsey will give the same exact speeches and John will finally fall asleep from boredom and disdain.

[tommer]

gldstwmn i think you got it wrong a bit, i think the reason they perform this cliche' setlist is for all those casual/light fans, all those who are not familiar with the entire mac catalogue.
i was talking to an old friend last night who's about to attend one of the london concerts with me, and she's so thrilled about all those classic (aka overkilled) songs which for me are some great candidates for a bathroom break.

[face of glass]

Originally posted by tommer
gldstwmn i think you got it wrong a bit, i think the reason they perform this cliche' setlist is for all those casual/light fans, all those who are not familiar with the entire mac catalogue.
i was talking to an old friend last night who's about to attend one of the london concerts with me, and she's so thrilled about all those classic (aka overkilled) songs which for me are some great candidates for a bathroom break.

That's right. The band doesn't have to challenge itself in any way when they do their gigs this way. The most people that go to the concert are casual fans anyway. That's where their main target group is. Whereas at Lindsey's Soundstage performance it was known beforehand that only the hardcores will be attending.

[AliP]

Every single concert I went to this year, I was standing by some boor who just complained and complained about the songs they didn't know. I heard so many complaints mostly during the Say Goodbye, WTWCT, and Beautiful Child set. "When are they going to play some hits," "This is boring." blah blah. Unfortunately, they have to play to the casual fan. So I think they will add some new ones and drop some, but overall they are still going to play the same songs.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by AliP
Every single concert I went to this year, I was standing by some boor who just complained and complained about the songs they didn't know. I heard so many complaints mostly during the Say Goodbye, WTWCT, and Beautiful Child set. "When are they going to play some hits," "This is boring." blah blah. Unfortunately, they have to play to the casual fan. So I think they will add some new ones and drop some, but overall they are still going to play the same songs.

Remember Lindsey's quote? They still want to hear the same songs that they were playing while they were f*&^$#g in the backseat of a car in the 70s....it was something to that effect. People want the old stuff. We fans who own the new album and really enjoy the new songs are a rarity. I don't know about where any of you live but here, they never really gave SYW and Peacekeeper (or Peacemaker and Pacemaker and one DJ accidently said..lol) much airtime at all.

[jmn3]

They have to play to the casual fan, but for goodness sakes do they HAVE to do the whole "The Chain, Dreams...Stand Back, Go Your Own Way, Don't Stop" setlist in THAT order?

They have opened with The Chain and closed with GYOW for so long that they probably couldn't start or end a concert any other way. Throw everybody off and open up with Tusk or Rhiannon. I don't know, just some suggestions to change this set around a bit...it's got some great songs in it, the one's people expect to hear, some new songs, a rare oldie (BC)...but the order is just stale at this point.

Also, it wouldn't hurt to have some better introductions. Lindsey's great, but a simple "This is the first single from the new album and it's called Peacekeeper" would suffice....the long boring intros which never change are kind of annoying at this point.

[gldstwmn]

That's the thing though, they still have plenty of hits to play. Monday Morning, Blue Letter, I Don't Want To Know, Sara, Sisters of The Moon, Not That Funny, That's All For Everyone, Seven Wonders... I mean, cripes there are 18 songs on Tusk. They're playing 2. And while I know there were a lot of hard feelings about OOTC, I wish he would play something from it. surely no one's upset about that anymore. JMO.

[dissention]

Originally posted by AliP
Every single concert I went to this year, I was standing by some boor who just complained and complained about the songs they didn't know. I heard so many complaints mostly during the Say Goodbye, WTWCT, and Beautiful Child set. "When are they going to play some hits," "This is boring." blah blah. Unfortunately, they have to play to the casual fan. So I think they will add some new ones and drop some, but overall they are still going to play the same songs.

I loved it in Boston where pretty much everyone knew the words to every damn song. You should have heard the place during Come, it exploded and screamed along with him. I wish every concert could be like that. It's rare for a new song to get the most accliam, which is a damn shame.

I understand the reasoning that they need the stuff for the casual fan, but christ, reward the die-hards a bit more, ya know? Throw in Storms or Tango in the Night or Oh Diane or Red Rover or Murrow or Sisters of the moon or Crystal or FROZEN LOVE.

[dissention]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
That's the thing though, they still have plenty of hits to play. Monday Morning, Blue Letter, I Don't Want To Know, Sara, Sisters of The Moon, Not That Funny, That's All For Everyone, Seven Wonders... I mean, cripes there are 18 songs on Tusk. They're playing 2. And while I know there were a lot of hard feelings about OOTC, I wish he would play something from it. surely no one's upset about that anymore. JMO.

Exactly!! They have SO many hits that they can afford to ditch Dreams or Big Love.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by tommer
gldstwmn i think you got it wrong a bit, i think the reason they perform this cliche' setlist is for all those casual/light fans, all those who are not familiar with the entire mac catalogue.
i was talking to an old friend last night who's about to attend one of the london concerts with me, and she's so thrilled about all those classic (aka overkilled) songs which for me are some great candidates for a bathroom break.

Oh, I agree. They play for the lite fan. They are trying to reach a broad spectrum. I can completely see the justification of ANY setlist in Europe because they haven't played there in so long. I just think that if they are going to come around again next year, they have to seriously think about mixing it up. Of course, we have to take into account the Christine factor, i.e. a third of their catalog can't be played becasue she's no longer there.

[gldstwmn]

Also, after hearing the early mix version of EFO on your site, dissention, I am convinced this song would rock live and get the place going. They should at least give it a shot.

[Patti]

Unfortunately, I remember reading somewhere Stevie saying the one song she never gets tired of singing is Dreams. Plus it is FM's only number one hit, so I don't think it will ever leave the setlist. And GYOW was a top 10 hit, so it will be around forever, too.

I would like to see them drop Gypsy. I love the song but I really don't think Stevie does it justice in the lower register. I was just listening to a St. Louis boot this morning and I just don't like how she performs it any longer. I'm kind of over Landslide too, but I'm sure it's never going anywhere.

Patti