Hoping for a BuckVie/McBuck Single

Fannymac · #1 03-28-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain

The song Behind the Mask was rumours lineup level great. I loved that song. The rest of the album was good, but to sugary.

Agreed....the problem wasn't the band or the songs (though I've always felt "Save Me" was a bad choice for the lead-off single!), it was the production....Greg Leydani was just too safe and slick. I really wish they had gone with Scott Litt as originally planned.

aleuzzi · #2 03-28-2017, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac

Agreed....the problem wasn't the band or the songs (though I've always felt "Save Me" was a bad choice for the lead-off single!), it was the production....Greg Leydani was just too safe and slick. I really wish they had gone with Scott Litt as originally planned.

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

bwboy · #3 03-28-2017, 06:45 PM

Patrick Leonard produced those songs, and Mick Fleetwood said he was very expensive! Leonard produced a lot of Madonna's stuff from True Blue and Like a Prayer.

**jbrownsjr** · #4 03-28-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

Love the production on Love Shines!

HomerMcvie · #5 03-29-2017, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Love the production on Love Shines!

Love Shines makes every greatest hits I do. I f*cking LOVE that song.

SteveMacD · #6 03-28-2017, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

**jbrownsjr** · #7 03-28-2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

SteveMacD · #8 03-28-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

Without Lindsey there, though, it seems like the tensions/fighting was mostly gone.

dreamsunwind · #9 03-28-2017, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

**jbrownsjr** · #10 03-28-2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

I went to his book signing and asked him privately. He said that a certain member would constantly threaten to leave if he/she didn't get his/her way.

I'm sure there wasn't a lot of fighting on BTM, but I think he'd moved on in life and wanted to produce other projects.

dreamsunwind · #11 03-28-2017, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I went to his book signing and asked him privately. He said that a certain member would constantly threaten to leave if he/she didn't get his/her way.

I'm sure there wasn't a lot of fighting on BTM, but I think he'd moved on in life and wanted to produce other projects.

Oh yeah I read he said once when he was talking about how Lindsey did that with Tusk that Stevie did the same thing later.

Richard I think it was I read he said he hated either BTM or Time, he said there was actually a lot of issues and he had a lot of conflict on it.

aleuzzi · #12 03-29-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

He did allude during his q&a that he and Lindsey had a musical disagreement while making Mirage. Can't recall exactly where it is in his q&a but if you scroll through it you'll find it. The suggestion Ken made was that Lindsey didn't ask him back after this.

Edit: I did find the portion of his q&a and am quoting it here:

How come you ended your work with Fleetwood Mac in 1983? Richard was a Co-producer with Lindsey on Tango, but not you if my memory is correct. In recent interviews Lindsey has seemed to be much more focused on Fleetwood Mac than his solo career despite the fact he has been working on a solo album since 1996. Has he shelved his solo project in favor of rolling it into a Fleetwood Mac album? (Anonymous, Amherst, Massachusetts, USA)

Well, maybe you could give me a tip on the stock market. My birthday is coming up-- go buy the Rumours DVD audio disc. Do you know it's been number one for eight weeks! See, the band really believes that you all would not be happy if Christine was on the album and not on the road. I think they may be right. I stopped working with Fleetwood Mac in 1983 because they didn't ask me to do. I think it was something between me and Lindsey. Yes, I believe Lindsey has shelved his solo project and is rolling it into the new Fleetwood Mac album.

aleuzzi · #13 03-29-2017, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

Production wise (and I think overall) Time is vastly superior to BTM. But one of the things a more assertive producer might have done was suggest Christine use acoustic pianos and a Hammond B3 instead of those tinny yamahas she was using. Egads.

**jbrownsjr** · #14 03-29-2017, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Production wise (and I think overall) Time is vastly superior to BTM. But one of the things a more assertive producer might have done was suggest Christine use acoustic pianos and a Hammond B3 instead of those tinny yamahas she was using. Egads.

The voicing of the keyboards on Hollywood want to make me slit my wrists.