After 12 plus years. Excited to hear Christine McVie

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

The entire band is walking on eggshells not to piss off Stevie. Mick and John could never be and would never be "reduced" to guests. They made a point NOT to call it Fleetwood Mac. By doing so gave both Lindsey and Christine more freedom than ever. John just recovered from cancer treatment. I am sure he would prefer to rest before a huge world tour. I suspect both John and Mick prefer to give both Stevie and Christine and Lindsey their space. If they had joined to duo for the entire project it would have to be called Fleetwood Mac.
Don't be a hater because Christine and Lindsey love making new music together with any member of Fleetwood Mac that cares to join them. Stevie is out recycling old songs that sound much better in their original form. All the beautiful worlds was perfect and re-recording it just took all the magic from the original song IMHO.

I'm really ok that Stevie isn't on the new album. This has nothing to do with her. And I have no idea how the band is walking on eggshells in order to not piss Stevie off LOL. But I do feel like there's some revisionism going on here. This WAS a Fleetwood Mac album, and songs were recorded by the four band members while they were waiting on Stevie to participate. You know, like they did with Tango in the Night. It was only when they finally accepted she wasn't going to join them that they changed it from a FM album to a 'duets' album, with songs performed by the four members. You know, like Say You Will, an album YOU might say was by Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, with guest spots by John McVie and Mick Fleetwood, but what I call Fleetwood Mac LOL. Remember, they changed the name from FM to Buckingham/McVie only afterwards.

But like I said, if Christine and Lindsey actually did record some songs without John and Mick, then my fears are unfounded, and I genuinely hope that's the case. So people don't need to assume I secretly hate FM because Stevie isn't on the album. I just want to make sure John and Mick didn't get screwed over in any way.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bwboy

You know, like Say You Will, an album YOU might say was by Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, with guest spots by John McVie and Mick Fleetwood, but what I call Fleetwood Mac LOL. Remember, they changed the name from FM to Buckingham/McVie only afterwards.

if you look on the Say You Will cover you will see that band was called Fleetwood Mac, not Buckingham Nicks.

if you read anything about the new album, you would have known by now that album is not released under Fleetwood Mac name, but Buckingham Mcvie. do i think it should have been released as Fleetwood Mac? absolutely! do you?

i'm pretty sure though that you have me blocked though, so i really should not be wasting my breath on this ridiculous argument.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by elle

if you look on the Say You Will cover you will see that band was called Fleetwood Mac, not Buckingham Nicks.

if you read anything about the new album, you would have known by now that album is not released under Fleetwood Mac name, but Buckingham Mcvie. do i think it should have been released as Fleetwood Mac? absolutely! do you?

i'm pretty sure though that you have me blocked though, so i really should not be wasting my breath on this ridiculous argument.

Elle, I have never blocked you. Also, I thought we were having a sincere discussion, not an argument. I believe you really feel the way you do, but I'm kind of feeling like you think I'm trying to bait you or something. That's truly not my intent. Maybe I'm not expressing myself well, so I apologize. When I mentioned Say You Will, my point was that if Stevie and Lindsey had recorded Say You Will as a 'duets' album, with John and Mick on every track, but then they went on tour and left them out, I would have felt just as sorry and betrayed for them then as I am now. That was my point there. And I freely admit that, like everyone here, I'm speculating as to motives etc. When the album is released, I could be shown I'm wrong, and I will be relieved to know that my favorite band isn't another victim of greed.

[HomerMcvie]

I have NEVER seen a more spectacular ass spanking on the Ledge, than this.

THANK YOU.

[elle]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I have NEVER seen a more spectacular ass spanking on the Ledge, than this.

THANK YOU.

lol unfortunately it doesn't look like it worked. he's still at it, in another thread. but yeah, he did let go of this one and had to invent yet another bait.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by elle

lol unfortunately it doesn't look like it worked. he's still at it, in another thread. but yeah, he did let go of this one and had to invent yet another bait.

Yeah, but the more ridiculous a situation looks, the more the source is exposed.

I enjoy an occasional implosion...

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I'm really ok that Stevie isn't on the new album. This has nothing to do with her. And I have no idea how the band is walking on eggshells in order to not piss Stevie off LOL. But I do feel like there's some revisionism going on here. This WAS a Fleetwood Mac album, and songs were recorded by the four band members while they were waiting on Stevie to participate. You know, like they did with Tango in the Night. It was only when they finally accepted she wasn't going to join them that they changed it from a FM album to a 'duets' album, with songs performed by the four members. You know, like Say You Will, an album YOU might say was by Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, with guest spots by John McVie and Mick Fleetwood, but what I call Fleetwood Mac LOL. Remember, they changed the name from FM to Buckingham/McVie only afterwards.

But like I said, if Christine and Lindsey actually did record some songs without John and Mick, then my fears are unfounded, and I genuinely hope that's the case. So people don't need to assume I secretly hate FM because Stevie isn't on the album. I just want to make sure John and Mick didn't get screwed over in any way.

You just made my point. You tried to counter but made my point even stronger
Yes, they decided not to call it Fleetwood Mac AFTER Stevie refused to join them. I don't see any revisionist history in that. Ask yourself why? They have every right to do so but are so careful not to annoy Stevie who for whatever reason agreed to tour relentlessly with the band but refuses to record with them. Its out of respect for those who have touchy feelings. After all its Stevie's feelings why she refuses to join them in the studio. Fleetwood Mac has always recorded albums with different members. Time was without Lindsey or Stevie but it was still Fleetwood Mac. Behind the Mask was without Lindsey but it was still Fleetwood mac. Say you will was without Christine but it was still Fleetwood Mac. Here is the difference!!!! Pay attention now In those instances the band members LEFT. They did not tour or have a one foot in and out foot out philosophy. Stevie wants to tour but does not want to make new music. So this is why they are bending over backwards and YES walking on eggshells to not call it Fleetwood Mac. I think its wrong but I totally understand why and I think you do too.