The Buckingham McVie album! Out June 9th, 2017!!!

[BLY]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I think Christine might be able to be the yin to his yang for this album. At least I hope.

Christine most definitely is .This album is going to be epic!

[AncientQueen]

^^^ I bought TITN the day it came out, literally waited in front of a record store to get it asap. It was so disappointing from the first hearing. I like some of the songs, loved the videos, but the cheesy 80s production reduced it from day one. A song like Everywhere went from a perfect little demo to a diabetis inducing sugar coated mess. Little Lies could have been so much more. I really liked the title track, that was good work, even if the guitar is just another use of the guitar solo from "I'm so afraid". Stevie brought nothing to the album, aside from her background vocals, all her songs were just weak, there was no gimmick that could save them, not that Lindsey didn't try hard. And TiTN had the dopple whopper of "Mystified" and "You and I" the most boring album fillers of the 80s. They gave me the rest. Bad album!

Lindsey went so far to use the whole grunting mess of Big Love again on SYWs "Everybody finds out", as if that had been a good idea in the first place. I lost all hope for future Lindsey productions when I listened to that song.

[elle]

Originally Posted by BLY

Christine most definitely is .This album is going to be epic!

i think the talk of Lindsey's production and gimmicks he sometimes likes to use is a very timely one.

i can't comment on Tango since i was not a fan at the time, and from today's perspective i cannot stand that type of production - but that may not be completely fair since again, i didn't hear it when it actually came out.

SYW - i have a hard time with this one. i adore many Lindsey songs on it, i think they are part of one of his strongest song sets ever (GOS1). other than Say Goodbye's horrible gimmicky tricks, i don't mind the production on his other songs there, especially since songs like Come and Murrow or Bleed to Love Her are such strong songs. but you know what? many people say that what SYW was really missing was Christine. SYW was nowhere near at the level of a solo original Gift of Screws. it's a loss for music that Warners stopped the original spectacular Gift and made Lindsey roll some of that amazing work into Say You Will.

Seeds We Sow - while some of the songs are produced extremely lush, such as In Our Own Time or Rack Away Blind, i am worried about all that speeding up LB seemed to have been so enamored with. many of his Seeds songs were the ones we first heard live, at the show he performed 5 months before the album came out. That's The Way Love Goes live was spectacular. all its punkishness and rockiness and rawness is ruined in the actual album version, which took that song's edge and softened it up.

so, i'm hoping LB is over whatever production urges he had that led him to do what he did to songs like That's the Way Love Goes. his songs co-produced with Froom on EP give me some hope.

working collaboratively with a strong musician like Christine, work that they both so obviously found enjoyable, i hope results in getting rid of some of those old production stranglers that i hope will not litter their new album, and some fresh, more raw, and interesting sound.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by AncientQueen

^^^ I bought TITN the day it came out, literally waited in front of a record store to get it asap. It was so disappointing from the first hearing. I like some of the songs, loved the videos, but the cheesy 80s production reduced it from day one. A song like Everywhere went from a perfect little demo to a diabetis inducing sugar coated mess. Little Lies could have been so much more. I really liked the title track, that was good work, even if the guitar is just another use of the guitar solo from "I'm so afraid". Stevie brought nothing to the album, aside from her background vocals, all her songs were just weak, there was no gimmick that could save them, not that Lindsey didn't try hard. And TiTN had the dopple whopper of "Mystified" and "You and I" the most boring album fillers of the 80s. They gave me the rest. Bad album!

Lindsey went so far to use the whole grunting mess of Big Love again on SYWs "Everybody finds out", as if that had been a good idea in the first place. I lost all hope for future Lindsey productions when I listened to that song.

I guess that's just a matter of different strokes for different folks. I loved Everywhere and Little Lies and wouldn't change much on them. Stevie was hardly present that's true but I do like some of her songs. I agree tho it had filler.

Altho I do also agree on some of the SYW songs but that was a while ago and we'll have to see what influence Christine has because their collaborations in my opinion have always been good.

[FuzzyPlum]

Christine says the music they've made is amazing. She's blown away by what Lindsey has done to her songs.
If she says that, then I believe her.
I hope they throw us a bone and give a snippet of music soon.

[MoonSister75]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Well I think all this discussion of his production/over-production gets to the heart of why Stevie doesn't want to work with him on another album. I know the romantic stuff makes a better story, but that sh*t's been whatever it is forever. They haven't been on the same page about making albums since she went solo. The IYD doc shows her preferred style of working--- very social, lots of laughter, breaks for dinner, as well as working on the music, which she did in a very collaborative way with Dave...and which she doesn't get with Lindsey because he's such a control freak. He tried on SYW, but there's always a palpable tension in the room when they are trying to work something out (you can really get it from that doc). Lindsey's just way more of a solo producer, he makes his music alone in his studio, writing and playing all the parts. When Stevie's writing and recording demos and everything (even before going into the studio) she's got a bunch of her pals/assistants/whoever around her. She totally needs an audience; he doesn't.

The more she's recorded solo, each time, has made it harder to go back and record with FM because she finds the process with Lindsey as tedious as John does. But she's got more at stake than John coz they're her songs LB is working on and she wants them to sound how she wants-- but she's not technically competent enough to just play a part how she wants it herself. And his vision of how her songs should sound these days (and for a while) is just not how she wants them to sound. She's very concerned with commerciality and he's way more about subverting a traditional commercial sound... They have just musically grown in very different directions and I understand why the pieces won't fit anymore. He's got very strong opinions and philosophies about how songs should be done and though he's tempered the manner in which he expresses those opinions, you can't totally change your personality and so he still can be sharp, judgmental, and a bit condescending and dismissive of her ideas when they don't match his. She's become more and more attached to her status as a Legend and thinks, I'm STEVIE NICKS I don't have to take this crap (even when his ideas make her songs better).
So as much as it breaks my heart, I get why it won't work.

I think this is fairly accurate description of how difficult the creative process is for them now. Just too difficult, and yes she doesn't have to take that crap, particularly at this stage of her life - there are probably so many other things she would rather do than be in a studio with Lindsey.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Christine says the music they've made is amazing. She's blown away by what Lindsey has done to her songs.
If she says that, then I believe her.
I hope they throw us a bone and give a snippet of music soon.

Yes, yes yes yes yes~!!!! yes to all of it..

I want a snippet so badly!

[elle]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Christine says the music they've made is amazing. She's blown away by what Lindsey has done to her songs.
If she says that, then I believe her.

very true! we didn't have that luxury, of someone who is his equal giving us insight into his solo album before we came out.

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

I hope they throw us a bone and give a snippet of music soon.

yes!!!!!!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by nicepace

If he really wants more sound than he can make by himself, he could have one additional musician (guitar and/or keyboard) who can also sing backup. But backing tracks .... [shudder].

I think he already has as many musician/singers on the road with him that he can afford to pay.

It's not like the OOTC tour with his "army". Even then he said his accountant told him it was a mistake.

Michele

[michelej1]

The Telegraph

Don't believe the rumours: Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham's duets album is bad news for Fleetwood Mac fans

NEIL MCCORMICK 17 JANUARY 2017 • 1:23PM

Fleetwood Mac are celebrated as one of the great dysfunctional soap operas of rock and roll, a dynastic saga set to music. They are almost as famous for the bed-hopping, powder sniffing, emotional traumas they have inflicted upon one another over the years as for their era-defining monster hits.

So news that two of its most cherished members are making an album together is a cause for intrigue, a sense that there may still be a twist or two ahead in the long running and increasingly convoluted narrative.

It was revealed this week that guitarist, singer and songwriter Lindsey Buckingham has been working on an album of duets with keyboard player, singer and songwriter Christine McVie. It is tentatively scheduled to be released in May, under the name Buckingham McVie. That in itself represents an inescapable reference to Buckingham Nicks, the pre-Fleetwood duo made up of Lindsey and former lover Stevie Nicks.

To add spice to the rumour mill, the rhythm section of drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist (and Christine’s ex-husband) John McVie appear on the album. So the only one of the famous five missing is the elusive Nicks.

There have been 16 members over Fleetwood Mac’s 50 year career, in a constant shuffling of roles that would leave the scriptwriters for Dallas breathless. Most of the bit part players have been forgotten by now but the five leads who united in the mid-70s to create some of the most glorious pop rock ever heard continue to exert fascination.

Legendary albums such as Rumours and Tusk were created in a whirl of narcotic excess, sexual shenanigans and romantic betrayal that lent an undoubted frisson and emotional subtext to songs of love, longing, loss and reconciliation, in which tough emotions were glossed with glorious melodies and sparkling harmonies.

When the classic line up reunited with Christine McVie in 2015, it was intriguing to note that there were three former couples sharing a stage, taking into account that Mick Fleetwood romanced Nicks behind Buckingham’s back during the making of Tusk. Fleetwood has often described the band’s complicated dynamic as a form of ongoing “group therapy”.

The Buckingham McVie album is probably bad news for Fleetwood Mac fans, however. It is 30 years since Tango In The Night, the last Mac album made by the classic line up (although Say You Will in 2003 did feature Christine’s backing vocals on two tracks). Rumours of recording sessions have been floating for the past few years, gaining heat and traction when Christine McVie rejoined.

But it has been known that Nicks, in particular, has been sceptical about whether she was willing to contribute. The appearance of an album featuring all of her band mates suggests they have tired of waiting for her. This is, in all likelihood, Mac without Nicks. And we’ve heard that before, on the dreary 1995 album Time, which I suspect most fans would prefer to forget even existed.

In fact, Fleetwood Mac have released three albums since their 1970s and 1980s hey-day, none of which even came close to recapturing former glories. Indeed, it is hard to think of many (if any) reunited bands who have really added to their canon with work that matches their best, and impacts upon their audience as meaningfully. All such albums are chasing a mirage, a dream of rekindling magical forces dissipated by age and time.

Yet there is something in the soap opera of Fleetwood Mac that almost demands one last musical act of grace. In this era of rock and roll losses, what a treat it would be if rock’s most dysfunctional family could patch it up, one more time with feeling.

The appearance of a Buckingham McVie album, however, may be an indication that the story is not set for a grand finale but a slow fade out.

But we can dream, can’t we? “Now here you go again, you say you want your freedom …”

[michelej1]

Los Angeles Times, Randall Roberts January 13, 2017

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...113-story.html

Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham talk about making their first duet album


Longtime devotees of the rock band Fleetwood Mac might be forgiven for letting out a gleeful yelp when registering the news that singer-keyboardist Christine McVie shared with The Times in December while sitting next to her band mate -- guitarist, singer and producer Lindsey Buckingham.

“I've been sending Lindsey demos in their very raw form,” she says, sitting in the Village Studio’s storied Studio D in West Los Angeles, “and he's been doing his Lindsey magic on them, which I love.”

The product of that magic is tentatively scheduled to come out in May, and the two are at the Village to work on vocals. Working with them are two familiar names: Mick Fleetwood, whose towering drum kit is in the next room, and bassist John McVie.

The album coming out of these sessions, however, won’t bear the Fleetwood Mac imprimatur.

Rather, the release with the working title “Buckingham McVie” will arrive as the first full-length collaboration between the pair.

For hard-core fans, it’s not news that, save band mate Stevie Nicks, Fleetwood Mac’s members have been holed up at the Village. At various intervals over the past few years, the band has acknowledged working on an unspecified project thought to be a new Fleetwood Mac album.

In fact, during a studio visit in 2014, The Times’ Randy Lewis sat down with Christine McVie and Buckingham to discuss her return to touring after 16 years away from the band.

“I thought, I'm really missing out on something — something that's mine, that I’ve just given up,” she said to Lewis. “I'm not paying respect to my own gift."

Nearly three years later, sharing a couch in the same suite where decades earlier Fleetwood Mac recorded its epic album “Tusk,” Buckingham says that after her return, he and McVie generated an entire album’s worth of material during the sessions.

“We got in here, and it made sense to me with what she had given me and what I done with it. But we still didn't know how it was going to play out in the studio,” Buckingham says.

He quickly realized that he’d had a pent-up enthusiasm for this kind of collaboration. “I loved doing it, because it's something that I haven't had a chance to do for Stevie as much as I did in the past,” he says, stressing that he continues to compose for solo projects.

“Those are a little more esoteric and off to the side,” he says, “but that's not the same as doing it for somebody else.”

McVie says she reconnected with Mick Fleetwood prior to joining the 2014 Fleetwood Mac “On With the Show” tour. She’d been living a solitary life in rural England when the drummer traveled to London in order to escort her to Hawaii, the destination she chose to help her overcome her fear of flying.

“I'd been virtually doing nothing in the country in 16 years of being a retired lady. Being busy walking my dogs — actually not doing anything very constructive,” she says. “I made one little solo album in my garage.” (2004’s “In the Meantime.”)

Buckingham remembers Fleetwood calling him soon thereafter. “He said, Christine's been over here and, you know, she would like to maybe rejoin the band." For Buckingham, it was a no-brainer.

McVie lets out a big laugh. “It’s unprecedented!”

“Yeah, but a lot of things about Fleetwood Mac are unprecedented,” says Buckingham. “I left for a long time and you guys got two guitar players and went ahead and did that for a while. Then I came back.”

“Weird times,” McVie says.

“Yeah,” Buckingham agrees. “I mean it's a band like no other.”

McVie, who is best known for writing and singing Mac gems including “Don’t Stop,” “Over My Head” and “Think About Me,” acknowledges that, early on in the Buckingham-McVie project, she doubted her ability to reconnect with her muse.

“I suppose I wondered if I believed in myself,” she says. “But I was like, 'Go for it, Chris. Go for it.' And, you know, a better thing's never happened to me. I've reconnected with the band and found a fantastic person to write with.”

Looking at Buckingham, she adds, “We've always written well together, Lindsey and I, and this has just spiraled into something really amazing that we've done between us.”

For his part, Buckingham’s initial songwriting contributions were the product of sessions with Fleetwood and John McVie, which Buckingham invited Christine McVie to augment.

“It was just pieces with no wording,” she says. “ so I put melody and lyrics on some of his material.”

“That was a first,” says Buckingham. “She would write lyrics and maybe paraphrase the melody — and come up with something far better than what I would have done if I'd taken it down the road myself.”

Those up on the history of Fleetwood Mac might note in the Buckingham McVie moniker the echo of an earlier duet album, “Buckingham Nicks.” Released in 1973 by the two future Fleetwood Mac members when they were a romantic and musical partnership, the Nicks and Buckingham release led Fleetwood a year later to invite the couple to join his band.

Nicks hasn’t contributed to the forthcoming Buckingham McVie project. She’s been on her own trip. In 2016, Nicks embarked on her “Rockin’ 24 Karat Gold Tour” with the Pretenders as openers. That tour will continue with a few dozen more dates across early 2017.

Her schedule, however, had little bearing on what Buckingham and McVie were creating, says Buckingham.

“All these years we've had this rapport, but we'd never really thought about doing a duet album before,” Buckingham says. “There is that album that I did with Stevie back before we joined the band, but other than that, it's all been Fleetwood Mac or solo.”

Interrupting with a tone of bafflement, McVie says, “And why on Earth? It seems absurd after 45 years.”

“Sometimes,” Buckingham says, “it takes, oh, about 40 years of perspective to figure it out.”

[michelej1]

^ They're pretty cute, if I do say so.

So, she calls herself "Chris" in her head, huh?

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by michelej1

^ They're pretty cute, if I do say so.

So, she calls herself "Chris" in her head, huh?

Michele

hahahaha... that is pretty cute.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by michelej1

The Telegraph

Don't believe the rumours: Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham's duets album is bad news for Fleetwood Mac fans

NEIL MCCORMICK 17 JANUARY 2017 • 1:23PM

Fleetwood Mac are celebrated as one of the great dysfunctional soap operas of rock and roll, a dynastic saga set to music. They are almost as famous for the bed-hopping, powder sniffing, emotional traumas they have inflicted upon one another over the years as for their era-defining monster hits.

So news that two of its most cherished members are making an album together is a cause for intrigue, a sense that there may still be a twist or two ahead in the long running and increasingly convoluted narrative.

It was revealed this week that guitarist, singer and songwriter Lindsey Buckingham has been working on an album of duets with keyboard player, singer and songwriter Christine McVie. It is tentatively scheduled to be released in May, under the name Buckingham McVie. That in itself represents an inescapable reference to Buckingham Nicks, the pre-Fleetwood duo made up of Lindsey and former lover Stevie Nicks.

To add spice to the rumour mill, the rhythm section of drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist (and Christine’s ex-husband) John McVie appear on the album. So the only one of the famous five missing is the elusive Nicks.

There have been 16 members over Fleetwood Mac’s 50 year career, in a constant shuffling of roles that would leave the scriptwriters for Dallas breathless. Most of the bit part players have been forgotten by now but the five leads who united in the mid-70s to create some of the most glorious pop rock ever heard continue to exert fascination.

Legendary albums such as Rumours and Tusk were created in a whirl of narcotic excess, sexual shenanigans and romantic betrayal that lent an undoubted frisson and emotional subtext to songs of love, longing, loss and reconciliation, in which tough emotions were glossed with glorious melodies and sparkling harmonies.

When the classic line up reunited with Christine McVie in 2015, it was intriguing to note that there were three former couples sharing a stage, taking into account that Mick Fleetwood romanced Nicks behind Buckingham’s back during the making of Tusk. Fleetwood has often described the band’s complicated dynamic as a form of ongoing “group therapy”.

The Buckingham McVie album is probably bad news for Fleetwood Mac fans, however. It is 30 years since Tango In The Night, the last Mac album made by the classic line up (although Say You Will in 2003 did feature Christine’s backing vocals on two tracks). Rumours of recording sessions have been floating for the past few years, gaining heat and traction when Christine McVie rejoined.

But it has been known that Nicks, in particular, has been sceptical about whether she was willing to contribute. The appearance of an album featuring all of her band mates suggests they have tired of waiting for her. This is, in all likelihood, Mac without Nicks. And we’ve heard that before, on the dreary 1995 album Time, which I suspect most fans would prefer to forget even existed.

In fact, Fleetwood Mac have released three albums since their 1970s and 1980s hey-day, none of which even came close to recapturing former glories. Indeed, it is hard to think of many (if any) reunited bands who have really added to their canon with work that matches their best, and impacts upon their audience as meaningfully. All such albums are chasing a mirage, a dream of rekindling magical forces dissipated by age and time.

Yet there is something in the soap opera of Fleetwood Mac that almost demands one last musical act of grace. In this era of rock and roll losses, what a treat it would be if rock’s most dysfunctional family could patch it up, one more time with feeling.

The appearance of a Buckingham McVie album, however, may be an indication that the story is not set for a grand finale but a slow fade out.

But we can dream, can’t we? “Now here you go again, you say you want your freedom …”

Man, some writers need to spin whatever they can to get an angle they think no one else will get. This article is, pardon my bluntness, crap.

[Angel75]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Well I think all this discussion of his production/over-production gets to the heart of why Stevie doesn't want to work with him on another album. I know the romantic stuff makes a better story, but that sh*t's been whatever it is forever. They haven't been on the same page about making albums since she went solo. The IYD doc shows her preferred style of working--- very social, lots of laughter, breaks for dinner, as well as working on the music, which she did in a very collaborative way with Dave...and which she doesn't get with Lindsey because he's such a control freak. He tried on SYW, but there's always a palpable tension in the room when they are trying to work something out (you can really get it from that doc). Lindsey's just way more of a solo producer, he makes his music alone in his studio, writing and playing all the parts. When Stevie's writing and recording demos and everything (even before going into the studio) she's got a bunch of her pals/assistants/whoever around her. She totally needs an audience; he doesn't.

The more she's recorded solo, each time, has made it harder to go back and record with FM because she finds the process with Lindsey as tedious as John does. But she's got more at stake than John coz they're her songs LB is working on and she wants them to sound how she wants-- but she's not technically competent enough to just play a part how she wants it herself. And his vision of how her songs should sound these days (and for a while) is just not how she wants them to sound. She's very concerned with commerciality and he's way more about subverting a traditional commercial sound... They have just musically grown in very different directions and I understand why the pieces won't fit anymore. He's got very strong opinions and philosophies about how songs should be done and though he's tempered the manner in which he expresses those opinions, you can't totally change your personality and so he still can be sharp, judgmental, and a bit condescending and dismissive of her ideas when they don't match his. She's become more and more attached to her status as a Legend and thinks, I'm STEVIE NICKS I don't have to take this crap (even when his ideas make her songs better).
So as much as it breaks my heart, I get why it won't work.

This exactly....totally agree