Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie

[nicepace]

... they need to do the album/tour as a foursome. Get on and live life while you have it!

Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I infer from everything I've read that Mick considers Stevie to be an essential element of the band, but why? I realize she's the most popular individual member (which I could never understand), but even without her the band would still be hugely popular. They need to scale down financial expectations a little, ratchet up their artistic expectations, finish the album with Christine and Lindsey, and go on a shorter tour as a foursome.

Either that or Christine needs to record another solo album (which she could easily do in a month, no fuss) and just go out on her own tour.

[Murrow]

I have one thing to say to Stevie Nicks.

Either defecate or get off the karzi. You got what you wanted - Christine came back. Now stop acting like a spoilt brat. What if John gets ill again and doesn't make it before you finally commit?

If you do leave, Fleetwood Mac will be better off without your endless moaning and bitterness - none of your swords and sorcery lyrics can disguise it and you've had all the sympathy you're going to get re Lindsey from this generation of fans.

Enough said there I think.

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by Murrow

I have one thing to say to Stevie Nicks.

Either defecate or get off the karzi. You got what you wanted - Christine came back. Now stop acting like a spoilt brat. What if John gets ill again and doesn't make it before you finally commit?

If you do leave, Fleetwood Mac will be better off without your endless moaning and bitterness - none of your swords and sorcery lyrics can disguise it and you've had all the sympathy you're going to get re Lindsey from this generation of fans.

Enough said there I think.

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group? Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break. As far as the bitterness and endless moaning, that is what I hear from haters on here more than anything I ever heard from Stevie.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by JohnL

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group? Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break. As far as the bitterness and endless moaning, that is what I hear from haters on here more than anything I ever heard from Stevie.

Well we haven't heard from Stevie much at all, but we can infer that she has been difficult behind the scenes regarding getting on board with the bands (the other 4 who are on the same page) plans.

What do you mean if anybody said this when Christine left? She wasn't holding the band back. She left when she no longer felt she could do it anymore. It's a lot more admirable than what Stevie has been doing. And the difference between then and now is that they're nearly 20 years older and don't really have the time to waste anymore. If it's going to happen, if they're going to put out one last album before it's all over, it has to be soon.

[michelej1]

2017. So, if we had any glimmer of hope that maybe we might get TWO albums from them when Christine re-joined the band, that hope is gone. This is the death knell. We just have to pray every night that they (and we) live until 2017. Years wasted.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by JohnL

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group? Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break. As far as the bitterness and endless moaning, that is what I hear from haters on here more than anything I ever heard from Stevie.

Stevie was pretty vocal about her complaints in that interview for the British press at the end of the American leg of ON WITH THE SHOW. She seemed pretty much over all-things Mac before they even hit Europe.

[Murrow]

Originally Posted by JohnL

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group? Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break. As far as the bitterness and endless moaning, that is what I hear from haters on here more than anything I ever heard from Stevie.

Christine during the 1998-2013 period was not a member of the group. They were therefore able to go ahead and do Say You Will when they did with all then current members committed.

Stevie has not officially left the group. What I am saying is she should either do so or stop procrastinating and lay her tracks down (once Mick's back from Australia that is).

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by JohnL

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group? Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break. As far as the bitterness and endless moaning, that is what I hear from haters on here more than anything I ever heard from Stevie.

Got a point there .Give her a break.I'm just wondering if the internet was up to full swing in when Chris left the band .The fan would had a chance to express their feelings about her.

Again .At this point .So what if they finish the album or not.I cant afford to loose any sleep over it.

[Macfanforever]

Sorry to mention .If they hired Dave S as producer from the start .He'll be tweeting about this along time ago with a daily updates like he did with Stevie's albums..

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Got a point there .Give her a break.I'm just wondering if the internet was up to full swing in when Chris left the band .The fan would had a chance to express their feelings about her.

Christine retired from touring in 1990, and made it clear with her lyrics on "Time" in 1995 that she was done. I looked at "The Dance" as an added bonus, like it was her way of going out on top. I doubt that anyone paying attention at the time was surprised that it was Christine who put a lid on that tour.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Can't blame Stevie for FM's lack of studio output...The blame rests squarely on Mick Fleetwood's shoulders ( and possibly the others if it's a group decision )
When you manage a company (yes FM is a company) and you have one employee (band member) disrupting or preventing the other team members from doing their jobs you try and fix the problem and if you can't fix the problem you REMOVE the problem (team member) so the others can be productive again.

If Stevie no longer want's to deal with LB in a studio setting that's her choice. It's also the bands choice to keep recording projects on the back burner year after year all the while hoping she will change her mind.
And why has Mick not fixed the problem? Because it seems he (and the others) would rather maximize the bands touring revenue instead of their creativity.

The band made a record without LB. They also made a record without LB & SN. And they also made a record without CM. So why not one with LB & CM without Stevie?
And is Stevie to blame for the fact that FM's studio output over the last 40 years barely compares to the first 7 years of FM before Stevie & Lindsey were hired.

Does Mick really think FM will be touring in 2020? He said the tour would start in the fall of 2017 and continue for 2 years (and if more dates are added possibly longer) It will be a miracle if FM reaches the end of the next tour (late 2019) without one of them having a health issue serious enough to impact the tour.

I think the others are right and at this stage of the game they need to be realistic with their expectations (times running short) and not try and plan what they will be doing at the end of 2019. By then Stevie will be 71 and Christine will be 76.

[elle]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

And is Stevie to blame for the fact that FM's studio output over the last 40 years barely compares to the first 7 years of FM before Stevie & Lindsey were hired.

you know, since there was no social media in the 70s and 80s, it's hard to know. maybe she is.

think of it in the light of all the new info we've been getting in the last few years (since 2009 really) on how Stevie is holding up their latest album for 7 years now already. and still, so many of the long time FM fans are saying it's just how FM is, they take a long time to record, LB is to blame for taking too long with the production etc - when it's so obviously Stevie holding it up. we cannot really discount she was to blame in the earlier years too (solo carrier coming first?), it just never floated on the surface since we didn't have the access to all the info we have now. the only info we had was their promotional interviews.


now about your point that Mick can put an end to it but he / managers want money that's in touring of the whole band over new creativity, that might be easily true. but also, we don't know their contracts. maybe Stevie has contractual power to prevent them from putting out an album without her and it would be a long protracted legal battle if they tried? who knows, hard to tell. there are so many possibilities and so much we don't know.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by JohnL

I would like to know if anyone said anything like this about Christine when she left the group?

Not when she LEFT altogether. She made it very clear that she was done, and gracefully gave the band her blessing to continue on without her. She didn't stifle the band.

However, I made a similar comment in 1995, when she had as many songs as Billy, Dave, and Mick COMBINED on the "Time" album, but wouldn't tour. You're either in the band or you're not.

Stevie has toured endlessly for like the last 8-10 years. Give the woman a break.

She chose to do that and got paid accordingly. However, age and illness make this likely the last chapter in Fleetwood Mac's history, and time is of the essence. It's just the reality.

[sue]

Originally Posted by Murrow

I have one thing to say to Stevie Nicks.

Either defecate or get off the karzi. You got what you wanted - Christine came back. Now stop acting like a spoilt brat. What if John gets ill again and doesn't make it before you finally commit?

If you do leave, Fleetwood Mac will be better off without your endless moaning and bitterness - none of your swords and sorcery lyrics can disguise it and you've had all the sympathy you're going to get re Lindsey from this generation of fans.

Enough said there I think.

ooooh.. ouch!!

[WayOfTheDragon]

Originally Posted by nicepace

Either that or Christine needs to record another solo album (which she could easily do in a month, no fuss) and just go out on her own tour.

I would really love another Christine solo album. If she went on a solo tour, I'd be there in a heartbeat.