Glenn Frey passes away

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by elle

while i think there's great music out there now the same as before, it's much more dispersed and harder to catch on, probably.

here's Bowie being asked about Britney and NSYNC, listing new groups at the time that were kinda underground and how they are not given enough chance to bubble up on the surface i guess since music on the radio is crap (that was 2002). of course, David Bowie pushed and helped groups like Arcade Fire (probably before LB ever heard of them):

I cant catch on with the new stuff .I just lost interest .Its just a mix bag .Rock is boring ,R&B in now rap,country is not country.

Radio is the big problem They only play the crap and leave the good stuff aside.Thank goodness for the college stations and Youtube and some internet stations .They play the good stuff.

1990's was the start of the decline of interest.It really nose dive in the 2000's for me.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

1990's was the start of the decline of interest.It really nose dive in the 2000's for me.

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

PS
I'd really recommend looking up a live performance on YouTube of a Pearl Jam song called Yellow Ledbetter (which they normally close their show with) that's what rock & roll is all about. (and they change the lyrics that are song on a regular basis).

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

Oh, but there really is so much melody and harmony, there really, really is.

try 'Creep' by Radiohead;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EauYsKAK5Zc

or 'Daughter' by Pearl Jam;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJwXgNdWbI

or 'All apologies' by Nirvana;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFVQpDKHk4

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Oh, but there really is so much melody and harmony, there really, really is.

try 'Creep' by Radiohead;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EauYsKAK5Zc

or 'All apologies' by Nirvana;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFVQpDKHk4

Two great songs. I never ignore modern music. I love the radio and am constantly turning the dial to EVERY station when I am in the car. There are plenty of great new songs to enjoy. I'd hate to be stuck in the past musically.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Two great songs. I never ignore modern music. I love the radio and am constantly turning the dial to EVERY station when I am in the car. There are plenty of great new songs to enjoy. I'd hate to be stuck in the past musically.

Ha, modern music. To think these are more than twenty years old.
I used to love Pearl Jam (and Nirvana, Smashing Pumkins etc) as a teenager and back then they used to be super-cool grungers with their long hair, cut-off jeans and lumber jack shirts. You see them today and they're still great but they're grown-up respectable parents with sensible haircuts and tidy clothes.

[elle]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

lol no wonder you don't like Nicks much!

seriously though, so many of the grunge era songs have plenty of melody. that said, hey what do i know, i like LB, and while he is a good example of melodic rock he also loves yelling and screaming and i enjoy that too!

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by elle

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing.

How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?

Back on topic:
Though I appreciate the Eagles and respect their songwriting skills, I can't say I've ever been a big, big fan. Mainy because I dont find there to be enough angst/grit in their music. I've only ever been able to listen to them in short doses- usually in the car on a hot, sunny day.
Nevertheless Glenn's passing is a real shock- they are a band I've never seen but would have liked to have done (just to say I've seen them as they are one of the truly iconic bands). Its a shame to hear he suffered so much pain. I know he had a pretty damned good life though.

[elle]

extending the apologies below...

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?

oh i love Eddie! that doesn't mean i can understand every word he's singing (or even the whole strings of words lol).

i love that they do covers. i was at a PJ show the day Lou Reed died, and they did several things to honor him, including a cover of his I'm Waiting for the Man. it was great and so utterly appropriate.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

Couldn't stand even Smashing Pumpkins?
It was also the time of the spreading of heavy metal.