The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Rumours
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-22-2015, 06:47 AM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,631
Default

If you are a Mac fan and went to the concert in Lincoln, Nebraska.... ask yourself this question. Would it be better for the show to have been cancelled all together if Mick decided not to play? Or was it better to get 65 minutes of Fleetwood Mac live?

If I was at the show of course I would be disappointed. But I would be thankful I got to see half a show. It would have been easy to just cancel and move on. Fleetwood Mac did the unthinkable and perform 2 songs while their drummer and founding member was incapacitated backstage. Its really amazing. No band wants to look amateurish or foolish with spontaneously playing songs without key members. But they did it for one song.
I think Stevie's remarks were meant as an apology. I think it would be standard language for any situation like this.
Fleetwood Mac is famous for starting tours in the Midwest. I would not be surprised to see Lincoln in the next tour early on.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
.
  #2  
Old 11-23-2015, 02:01 AM
iamnotafraid iamnotafraid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
...was it better to get 65 minutes of Fleetwood Mac live?

Fleetwood Mac did the unthinkable and perform 2 songs while their drummer and founding member was incapacitated backstage.
Unless Mick's life was in danger, I think the rest of
the band could have come up with something to
extend the show past 65 minutes. In fact this could
have been the show to be at had they chosen to
take a risk and continue.

USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-23-2015, 05:44 AM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iamnotafraid View Post
Unless Mick's life was in danger, I think the rest of
the band could have come up with something to
extend the show past 65 minutes. In fact this could
have been the show to be at had they chosen to
take a risk and continue.

USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of...
Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them. How do you perform without a drummer? Even if Stevie got sick it would be disrespectful to the fans and the group to go on like nothing is happening.
Fleetwood Mac is the only band I know of that had one of their roadies fill in for the song he knows and plays during a sound check. He does a great job but still flubs the song and missed the beat about midway. Fleetwood Mac is a professional band. They are not going to play botched songs. They are also not going to play songs they have not practiced for the tour. Someone even wrote they should have played landslide again. Now isn't that silly? How about a puppet show? Charades?
The Rolling Stones would not perform if Charlie Watts was ill. The Eagles were not perform if Don Henley was ill. Not sure why FM should be held to a different standard.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away

Last edited by Macfan4life; 11-23-2015 at 08:15 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-23-2015, 08:42 AM
olive olive is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Global
Posts: 2,615
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them. How do you perform without a drummer? Even if Stevie got sick it would be disrespectful to the fans and the group to go on like nothing is happening.
Fleetwood Mac is the only band I know of that had one of their roadies fill in for the song he knows and plays during a sound check. He does a great job but still flubs the song and missed the beat about midway. Fleetwood Mac is a professional band. They are not going to play botched songs. They are also not going to play songs they have not practiced for the tour. Someone even wrote they should have played landslide again. Now isn't that silly? How about a puppet show? Charades?
The Rolling Stones would not perform if Charlie Watts was ill. The Eagles were not perform if Don Henley was ill. Not sure why FM should be held to a different standard.

KISS did it no Paul Stanley , the lead singer and they pulled it off

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kis...posted-online/

Last edited by olive; 11-23-2015 at 06:15 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-23-2015, 09:57 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,439
Default

As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..


USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of... GO YOUR OWN WAY!!!
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-23-2015, 11:38 AM
FuzzyPlum FuzzyPlum is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,671
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..


USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of... GO YOUR OWN WAY!!!

How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'? I bet he just took them out. If that happened then there'd definately be film of it somewhere.

That said, they should have strung it along a bit more. They could have played a couple more songs. No chance they'll be back there in a hurry.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-23-2015, 11:56 AM
vivfox's Avatar
vivfox vivfox is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,022
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum View Post
How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'?
That person was having fun. There was no such article published. It is a joke.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-23-2015, 01:55 PM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,439
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum View Post
How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'? I bet he just took them out. If that happened then there'd definately be film of it somewhere.

That said, they should have strung it along a bit more. They could have played a couple more songs. No chance they'll be back there in a hurry.
I'm almost 100% sure this was not true... I was playing along..
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-24-2015, 10:04 PM
michelej1 michelej1 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: California
Posts: 26,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..
It was the tacos that gave you away. Otherwise, I wouldn't have known the difference.

Michele
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-23-2015, 06:22 PM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by olive View Post
KISS did it no Paul Stanley , the lead singer and they pulled it off

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kis...posted-online/
That's a great answer but not a fair analogy. Kiss was aware Paul Stanley was not to perform per doctors orders well before the show. The band was prepared to give some sort of mutated performance. A drummer is much more key. I am sure if the drummer was ill Kiss would not have been able to perform. Mick fell ill during the acoustic set so those songs were over.
But taking this even further. Many Mac concerts were cancelled in 1987 because Stevie was ill. Is it right for the Mac to perform without one of its members? Lets say they did but removed Stevie songs from the set. There are huge amounts of fans that go just to see Stevie. So many fans would be demanding refunds because all of Fleetwood Mac did not perform.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-24-2015, 07:08 AM
olive olive is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Global
Posts: 2,615
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
That's a great answer but not a fair analogy. Kiss was aware Paul Stanley was not to perform per doctors orders well before the show. The band was prepared to give some sort of mutated performance. A drummer is much more key. I am sure if the drummer was ill Kiss would not have been able to perform. Mick fell ill during the acoustic set so those songs were over.

ok it's been done The WHO replace Keith Moon with a fan midway though a show

http://everyrecordtellsastory.com/20...an-from-crowd/
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-24-2015, 06:45 PM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by olive View Post
ok it's been done The WHO replace Keith Moon with a fan midway though a show

http://everyrecordtellsastory.com/20...an-from-crowd/
And the WHO was out of their minds like their drummer. I doubt Mick wants anyone playing his drums let alone being able to play the songs. The WHO sounded like crap but everyone was so wasted they did not care.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-24-2015, 01:26 AM
iamnotafraid iamnotafraid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
How do you perform without a drummer?
With Stevie on cowbell, who needs a drummer?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-24-2015, 05:43 AM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,631
Default

Ha Ha
That reminds me of this SNL skit. We need more cowbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd0OjjCz88
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-24-2015, 06:57 AM
olive olive is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Global
Posts: 2,615
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iamnotafraid View Post
With Stevie on cowbell, who needs a drummer?
best answer
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Christine McVie Christine McVie LP Vinyl NEW sealed picture

Christine McVie Christine McVie LP Vinyl NEW sealed

$14.95



Estate of Christine McVie - Isle of Wight Festival 2015 Official Poster  picture

Estate of Christine McVie - Isle of Wight Festival 2015 Official Poster

$150.00



Christine McVie by Christine McVie (CD, 1984) picture

Christine McVie by Christine McVie (CD, 1984)

$12.99



CHRISTINE MCVIE SELF TITLED 10 TRACK CD w/GOT A HOLD ON ME  picture

CHRISTINE MCVIE SELF TITLED 10 TRACK CD w/GOT A HOLD ON ME

$19.99



PROMO ONLY Christine McVie The Legendary Christine Perfect Album 1976 RARE VINYL picture

PROMO ONLY Christine McVie The Legendary Christine Perfect Album 1976 RARE VINYL

$39.99




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved