Stevie on the Madonna/Britney MTV Kiss

[Beth]

The following is something that was written on a board I was browsing on the Madonna/Brittany subject:

"I love you Stevie, but you should have taken your advice that you gave to Natalie Maines and kept your mouth shut if you want people to buy your records. Remember that line ??"

Does anyone know what article this is from or what interview? I tend to not believe that Stevie said the J.Lo line, it sounds out of character and just sort of thrown in to add some fluff. Ive never read a comment of hers being that off the wall.

But I was taken a back by the comment above in regards to Stevie being a hypocrit for using drugs etc and not being perfect herself---because Stevie has never sold anything using sex appeal and she surely hasnt used shock value to reinvent herself or sell records and thats what Stevie was refering to in the article. She didnt use drugs to portray an image that would help sell herself or records.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Beth
. . . because Stevie has never sold anything using sex appeal and she surely hasnt used shock value to reinvent herself or sell records and thats what Stevie was refering to in the article. She didnt use drugs to portray an image that would help sell herself or records.

I respectfully disagree.

Stevie hauled out in very carefully planned and very low cut outfits made of very sexy black chiffon (an odd if not shocking sight) that revealed her surgically enhanced breasts and was coked up out of her head until 1985 but gave spectacular performaces which set a standard she is still judged by today as much as 30 years later. Granted, she is not coked up anymore, but she is still trying (successfully in my opinion) to be sexy by exposing a leg every now and then and also hauling her boobs higher to heaven during Rhiannon. I am pretty sure she is doing this for sex appeal on her own terms because she has been doing this all along. I say more more power to her, but at the same time I think it is a little hypocritical to criticize someone else for doing basically the same thing and a thing that was not really done at all in her day.

Thus, my point, it is all about degrees of severity.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by dissention
Don't you mean where is the singing talent? Hootchie Spears sounds a drag queen doing impromptu karaoke. No one can argue that her voice is anything but average. No one.

Spears talent lies with whoever is producing her record and mixing her. I am convinced the girl cannot sing and yes, I've seen her live (don't ask). It also lies in the fact that she dresses like a complete ho, purely for shock factor. That's where the digging a hole thing comes in. What are you gonna do to top all that? Pretty soon you're going to run out of options. Like I said on another thread, I hope she invests wisely.
As for Christina, girlfriend can sing. It's excellent advice for her to write her own songs. There will come a time when she won't be able to run around almost naked anymore. Then what? I notice Madonna wears far more clothing than she used to. Don't even bring up Cher's body or I'll tell the goatee joke.
Has anyone else noticed that Stevie seems to be far more forthcoming in the foreign press? JMO.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Don't even bring up Cher's body or I'll tell the goatee joke.

[The Catdancer]

I wonder why Stevie makes comments like that. Why should she care who's kissing who, about an age difference and whether Britney and XXXtina will be around when they're 55???? I don't get it. Britney has zero talent and XXXtina.... well, she can sing, that's for sure and maybe it is good advice to write her own songs but I don't think she will take that advice and she didn't ask for it (as far as I know).

Like someone else said, times have changed and Stevie herself was pretty sexy when she was younger. In the 80's she showed so much cleavage, her boobs nearly fell out.

I do agree with her on one thing though: when you watch MTV, you might as well go to stripclub. It's all about sex, the less clothes you wear, the more money you make. That's the way it is these days.

I don't think she's oppossed to two women kissing though, she just thinks Madonna is too old to kiss Britney. I know I'll be probably be banned for life for saying this but maybe Stevie wanted to be kissed by Madonna since they're in the same age group..... JMHO

Debbie

[dissention]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Don't even bring up Cher's body or I'll tell the goatee joke.

LMAO!

[diamondsnake]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
I wonder why Stevie makes comments like that. Why should she care who's kissing who, about an age difference and whether Britney and XXXtina will be around when they're 55???? I don't get it. Britney has zero talent and XXXtina.... well, she can sing, that's for sure and maybe it is good advice to write her own songs but I don't think she will take that advice and she didn't ask for it (as far as I know).

Like someone else said, times have changed and Stevie herself was pretty sexy when she was younger. In the 80's she showed so much cleavage, her boobs nearly fell out.

I do agree with her on one thing though: when you watch MTV, you might as well go to stripclub. It's all about sex, the less clothes you wear, the more money you make. That's the way it is these days.

I don't think she's oppossed to two women kissing though, she just thinks Madonna is too old to kiss Britney. I know I'll be probably be banned for life for saying this but maybe Stevie wanted to be kissed by Madonna since they're in the same age group..... JMHO

Debbie

Who wouldn't want to be kissed by Madonna???

Also, I have never seen a picture of Stevie, with her "boobs nearly falling out", any pictures anywhere?

[FiercestCalmSea]

Wow..i was totally surprised when i read this,not cause i disagree..but Stevie usually keeps quiet about stuff like this...I agree mostly with what she is saying..i loathe Britney...but i do like Xtina..she can sing like a mofo...i don't hold her in the same regard as Stevie..but i definitly listen to her music.Anyway..Go Stevie

[sparky]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Who wouldn't want to be kissed by Madonna???

Me. I think I'd rather lick the floor of a vd clinic.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Who wouldn't want to be kissed by Madonna???

I wouldn't. But then, she probably doesn't want to kiss me either.

[sparky]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Moreover, the bottom line is like the women today, Stevie used sex to sell her records.

Boy howdy she did. If anyone disagrees, I only ask you to check out the cleavage in the Seven Wonders video. There are many other examples of this, but it is certainly a matter of degree. Stevie never looked sleazy. She has always had a certain grace
about her - chemically enhanced moments excepted.

On the flip side, Britney, Christina, and even Madonna have all pranced around looking like 20 dollar whores. More power to them, I guess. The problem for the youngsters is they haven't proven they have any real talent or staying power. Three or four years of success in the music business is pretty paltry. Maybe they will last, maybe they won't. One thing is certain - people will not always want to see them wearing next to nothing. And once the record sales drop, the top writers will not be offering them the songs they can't have careers without.

For crying out loud, the new Rolling Stone has Britney practically naked on the cover. I suppose the next step is a full on gynecoligical spread in Hustler. Wouldn't surprise me.
I am sure half the straight men in America bought the RS
magazine. I tossed it out of the house the day I got it. Now if George Clooney were on the cover almost naked, then I might have kept it. We all have our double standards !




I am glad Stevie said something. She might get a little mud slung at her, but she has the right to an opinion. In addition, she has been there. She can take care of herself.

I don't really care about the kiss, but I am totally with her on the rest of it.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Beth
She didnt use drugs to portray an image that would help sell herself or records.

Ahem. Gold Dust Woman? A part of her image was all about illicit drug use. It was very chic then and only served to enhance Stevie's mystery. JMO.

[DeeGeMe]

Stevie was and still is a beautiful woman. If she would have worn jeans and a t-shirt, she would still have been considered sexy. As low-cut as some of her outfits were in the early days, she was never trashy. And Cher, despite the super wild outfits she wore (and still does) was never vulgar. Christina, Britney, and Madonna live in the world of trashy and often vulgar. The three of them seem to be in a contest to see which one can look most like your average streetwalker.

[DrummerDeanna]

Well damn..guess I can rule out my shocking Stevie/Deanna Kiss at the awards when my band gets big

I'm totally kidding btw....

Anyway..that article was a bit strange...in that Stevie isn't usually that blatant...BUT have you noticed that some stars tend to get more blatant and stuff as they get older?? I like to hear her views on things....keeps my view of her interesting.

[diamondsnake]

Am I the only one who thinks Madonna is in a different league then, say Brit and Christina? I mean obviously Madonna does have staying power- she has been around since the early 80s! That is almost as long as Stevie has been around.

I think Madonna may push the envelope, but she does have much more talent and "star" power then say Brit. And Madonna also writes all her own songs! Not only that, she just wrote a childrens book and was in a critically aclaimed movie, Evita.

And she has had 2 greatest hits albums!

Now, I do love Stevie more than I love Madonna, but I still think Madonna is great in her own way. And while she may use more of a "sexy" image then Stevie does, that is not the basis of her entire career anymore.

I know I am starting to sound crazy, but most people on this post are grouping Madonna with Brit and Christine. I think Madonna has proven that she is a much more powerful star then these two are.

I think she IS the most popular pop star in the world, and I think most people would have to agree that I am right. Anyone want to argue that statement???