Has "Songbird" been cut?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I am a bit confused. Are we talking about the Christine McVie video album? If so, Songbird is played at the end. She tells everyone Merry Christmas and will see everyone on the road soon.
Maybe other copies don't have this song? I have the VHS tape and it includes songbird.

Is the injured finger speculation? Does anyone know if anything happened and how?

I think they just wanted to shorten the set a bit and decided to drop one encore and another song.

Songbird solo Country Club December 1983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wkh82ceAk

Oh, no. Songbird is definitely on the video album. We were just talking about it's placement, whether it comes at the end or a little earlier in the set. Now, you mentioned the Country Club recording. At the live event, I don't think she ended with Songbird at the Country Club. I think she ended with Over My Head. Now, to me nothing is more rousing than OMH, but I don't think everyone feels that way. It's more of a "calming" closer as well. But it does have a sing-a-long vibe that Songbird doesn't have. Songbird is more of a listen.

Well, I sing along with OMH and that's not necessarily a good thing.

But for her tour in 1984, she closed with Songbird.

Michele

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Oh, no. Songbird is definitely on the video album. We were just talking about it's placement, whether it comes at the end or a little earlier in the set. Now, you mentioned the Country Club recording. At the live event, I don't think she ended with Songbird at the Country Club. I think she ended with Over My Head. Now, to me nothing is more rousing than OMH, but I don't think everyone feels that way. It's more of a "calming" closer as well. But it does have a sing-a-long vibe that Songbird doesn't have. Songbird is more of a listen.

Well, I sing along with OMH and that's not necessarily a good thing.

But for her tour in 1984, she closed with Songbird.

Michele

Interesting
At the end of Songbird she wishes everyone well and thanks them for their support and says they are going on tour. It looks like a closer to me. Unless she closed with Songbird and came back for OMH for an encore.

On her 1984 tour she never did OMH and did close with songbird.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Interesting
At the end of Songbird she wishes everyone well and thanks them for their support and says they are going on tour. It looks like a closer to me. Unless she closed with Songbird and came back for OMH for an encore.

On her 1984 tour she never did OMH and did close with songbird.

You nailed it. She came back with SYLM and OMH as an encore. Now SYLM is the more upbeat of those 2, but she chose OMH to end, rather than SYLM. But I think she wanted a different vibe for the recording audience than she may have wanted for the tour. Or maybe she didn't like the response closing with OMH got and so the Country Club was the test audience and she switched it up after gauging their reaction.


Michele

[nicole21290]

Songbird and Seven Wonders out of the set again tonight, apparently.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Songbird and Seven Wonders out of the set again tonight, apparently.

You beat me to the punch
The Stevie speech is gone too.
Check out my full Miami review in the Miami thread.

[bombaysaffires]

goodness, what a mountain we've made out that little molehill!

It is interesting that folks are fixated on something Christine did thirty years ago rather than what actually came out of her mouth about the subject sometime last year.

The point is, people do change their feelings about things over three whole decades. What one feels about something in 1984 just might not be how one feels about it in 2014. I know I've changed my opinions on things over long periods of time. Maybe that's just me.

Anyway the fact is the song seems to be out of the set and continues to remain out of the set for some unknown reason. It will be interesting to see if it comes back.

[Macfan4life]

A Fleetwood Mac concert without Songbird is like a day without sunshine. Impossible to believe. I am leaning towards the part where Chris's hand may be hurt. She would take off a black half glove and put it back on at different times. I saw her have it on during the maraccas on World Turning and then take it off to play keyboards during Don't Stop. So I thought she was padding her hands for the maraccas. But I was looking at photos from last night and Chris did not wear this glove during the maraccas on Everywhere. So it may be some sort of hand injury glove (carpal tunnel).
Fleetwood Mac has NEVER played concerts without closing with Songbird.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

goodness, what a mountain we've made out that little molehill!

It is interesting that folks are fixated on something Christine did thirty years ago rather than what actually came out of her mouth about the subject sometime last year.

I'm not fixated on it at all. I just don't think she minds the placement of the song. It's that simple. I said that. You came back with quotes to prove otherwise and I don't think that quote is dispositive and certainly not an indication that the song has been cut because she doesn't like it coming at the end.

For me, the song is emotionally pleasing, but as a song on its own merit, it does not do too much for me, so I don't care whether it returns or not.

Do I think it works at the end? For FM yes. Farmer's Daughter works at the end. They all tend to like quiet songs at the end of their solo and band sets. Those work for them.

On the other hand, I found Don't Stop would have worked at the end of the Dance on that video. I loved it when they just stopped playing, put down their instruments and walked off the stage. If there hadn't been an encore I would have though that exit was perfectly cool.

At any rate, since Christine only had one tour I'll probably focus on it a lot whenever a similar subject about song setlist preferences for Ms. McVie comes up. There are no other tours to draw from for her. Don't take it as fixation.

As for making a mountain out of molehill. When there is daily discussion and not daily activity, you tend to talk about the same things a lot, because there's not a lot happening. It's the same thing that happens on cable tv. Christine's feelings about Songbird might be as interesting as Harrison's plane crash on an FM fan board.

Michele