who should replace SN if she continues refusing to record

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Yes but would FM want the final chapter to be that they were reduced to playing smaller venues or do they want to retire the "FM brand" and have "OWTS" as the final shining star in their crown. Mick is already saying that the new product may take the form of a solo record. If Mick did not care about the FM legacy why would he be saying that?

Therein lies the disconnect. I don't think Lindsey really cares about the arena rock aspect of Fleetwood Mac. I think he'd be perfectly happy playing smaller venues if it meant Fleetwood Mac would be creatively relevant.

While Mick loves being in an arena rock band, no doubt, I suspect he'd rather have Fleetwood Mac be around a few more years even if that meant not being an arena rock band anymore. If Christine, John, and Lindsey said they wanted to go back out as Fleetwood Mac, do you honestly think he'd say no to that? John always struck me as being indifferent. He just wants to play bass. The rest is what it is.

Christine is the one I can't read, and the band's future could be squarely on her shoulders. Based on what she has pretty consistently said since rejoining, I think she came out of retirement to make more new music with Fleetwood Mac. If playing smaller venues doesn't bother her, I see no reason why the band has to call it a day. If it has to be arena rock or nothing for her, then the band is pretty much over.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Yeah, because concert promoters want to bill something as "The Men of Mac Featuring Christine McVie."

It was just a suggestion.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

It was just a suggestion.

If Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey decide to do a tour, it's Fleetwood Mac. I don't understand how it was okay to call it Fleetwood Mac when it was just Stevie and Lindsey fronting the band, but it's not okay to call it Fleetwood Mac if it's just Lindsey and Christine fronting the band (especially considering Christine has been on way more Fleetwood Mac albums than Stevie).

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

If Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey decide to do a tour, it's Fleetwood Mac. I don't understand how it was okay to call it Fleetwood Mac when it was just Stevie and Lindsey fronting the band, but it's not okay to call it Fleetwood Mac if it's just Lindsey and Christine fronting the band (especially considering Christine has been on way more Fleetwood Mac albums than Stevie).

yeah it's a ridiculous argument. they are Fleetwood Mac. that's not issue in this poll, its premise is we are talking about FM.


meanwhile i don't know how to vote. my preference is just the 4.

but i'm intrigued by your arguments for Susanna Hoffs and i think that would be really interesting.

i also think there are a number of interesting lesser known or somewhat younger and very creative artists who could contribute to the album nicely and it would be really interesting to hear what those combinations would produce.

when we discussed it on fb before posting the thread, people were bringing up many potential artists that sound interesting in the context of FM, especially women. and also some well known artists like Annie Lennox.

[SteveMacD]

My first choice is for Stevie to stay on, followed by them going on as a quartet.

But, it's interesting to think of possible choices as to who could come in if Stevie left. They all have pros and cons. I think Susanna Hoffs has the most pros and the least cons. I think the transition from Stevie to Susanna would be the most effortless. Susanna would instinctively understand her role in the band and where she'd fit in with their harmony structure. I also like that nobody would consider her to be Stevie II (which was a problem for Bekka).

One "younger" artist that I think would do an amazing job is Neko Case. Her voice is haunting, and she was in a band that had multiple lead singers (New Pornographers).

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

My first choice is for Stevie to stay on, followed by them going on as a quartet.

But, it's interesting to think of possible choices as to who could come in if Stevie left. They all have pros and cons. I think Susanna Hoffs has the most pros and the least cons. I think the transition from Stevie to Susanna would be the most effortless. Susanna would instinctively understand her role in the band and where she'd fit in with their harmony structure. I also like that nobody would consider her to be Stevie II (which was a problem for Bekka).

One "younger" artist that I think would do an amazing job is Neko Case. Her voice is haunting, and she was in a band that had multiple lead singers (New Pornographers).

Might appeal to LB's quirky side. You have to love Elvis, looks like Sheryl might be a little intimidated.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

If Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey decide to do a tour, it's Fleetwood Mac. I don't understand how it was okay to call it Fleetwood Mac when it was just Stevie and Lindsey fronting the band, but it's not okay to call it Fleetwood Mac if it's just Lindsey and Christine fronting the band (especially considering Christine has been on way more Fleetwood Mac albums than Stevie).

I'm not saying it would not be FM I'm saying does the band want the blockbuster "OWTS" tour to be the last thing great thing the band is remembered for or do they want people looking back 10 or 20 years from now and saying FM went down hill after Stevie left and just faded away.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

I'm not saying it would not be FM I'm saying does the band want the blockbuster "OWTS" tour to be the last thing great thing the band is remembered for or do they want people looking back 10 or 20 years from now and saying FM went down hill after Stevie left and just faded away.

If they had ten more years, then I think that could be a valid concern. But, I think whatever they do from here on out will generate some level of interest. When 80% of one of the most successful bands in rock history make an album, people will still notice, especially considering they DON'T have another decade. And, I don't think Lindsey wants OWTS to be the last thing they're remembered for. I think he'd much rather see Fleetwood Mac to go out on a creative high note than on a commercial one, and Christine didn't come out of retirement just to do a greatest hits tour. She wanted to make new music with Fleetwood Mac, and almost immediately went into the studio with the boys after rejoining.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

I'm not saying it would not be FM I'm saying does the band want the blockbuster "OWTS" tour to be the last thing great thing the band is remembered for or do they want people looking back 10 or 20 years from now and saying FM went down hill after Stevie left and just faded away.

The On With The Show tour will hold little significance in terms of their long term legacy. The hill you presume they will go down without Stevie would just be a twist in the road of a band with a twisted history.

Unwarranted are the dire predictions that their last years will be spent be limping around, reduced to playing to half-filled road houses; their status and reputation so sadly damaged that it will nullify all they have accomplished.

Bollocks!

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

The On With The Show tour will hold little significance in terms of their long term legacy. The hill you presume they will go down without Stevie would just be a twist in the road of a band with a twisted history.

Unwarranted are the dire predictions that their last years will be spent be limping around, reduced to playing to half-filled road houses; their status and reputation so sadly damaged that it will nullify all they have accomplished.

Bollocks!

You seem to be forgetting the "Time" years when FM was a mere shadow of it's former self...This could happen again as it's possible that CM or LB would grow weary of a SN replacement and retire leaving Mick with trying to carry on with only one of the 3 "Rumours" singers in the band.