The space of time between albums featuring Buckingham/Nicks/McVie

[SteveMacD]

The point I'm trying to make, if Christine McVie ever left Fleetwood Mac during that period, it was a pretty big secret. Even to the rest of the band, apparently.

[wetcamelfood]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The point I'm trying to make, if Christine McVie ever left Fleetwood Mac during that period, it was a pretty big secret. Even to the rest of the band, apparently.

If the "WB getting legal" deal is right then it must've been a case of CM being there originally, then "not liking the direction" and leaving, then WB not liking the album not including her songs so they got her back to do those that were included on the album, then she was out anyway since it was known from day one she wouldn't tour with them (if she had changed her membership in 1990 to only include recording and not touring this is probably how WB was able to make her record and not tour, maybe her leaving due to the direction earlier was informal, and therefore, "secret" to the band?) so this could make sense. The quote leading us to believe Billy wasn't there makes sense as well since he did leave for a while then came back himself. However, since it's clear from the album liner notes (regardless what Billy said at the Penguin Q&A) her songs were done separate from the rest (Michael Thompson etc.) those must've been the ones done when WB made her come back otherwise the same credits as the others would've applied. It does make you wonder if she cut anything with them before she left though. Yeah, I remembered there were other tracks cut from the album other than Bigger The Love but can't remember what they were, if only we could find that T-shirt with the original album tracklisting...

John

[Mr Scarrott]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

If the "WB getting legal" deal is right then it must've been a case of CM being there originally, then "not liking the direction" and leaving, then WB not liking the album not including her songs so they got her back to do those that were included on the album, then she was out anyway since it was known from day one she wouldn't tour with them (if she had changed her membership in 1990 to only include recording and not touring this is probably how WB was able to make her record and not tour, maybe her leaving due to the direction earlier was informal, and therefore, "secret" to the band?) so this could make sense. The quote leading us to believe Billy wasn't there makes sense as well since he did leave for a while then came back himself. However, since it's clear from the album liner notes (regardless what Billy said at the Penguin Q&A) her songs were done separate from the rest (Michael Thompson etc.) those must've been the ones done when WB made her come back otherwise the same credits as the others would've applied. It does make you wonder if she cut anything with them before she left though. Yeah, I remembered there were other tracks cut from the album other than Bigger The Love but can't remember what they were, if only we could find that T-shirt with the original album tracklisting...

John

Isn't it possible that Chris, John & Mick laid down most of the work on her 5 tracks from Time even before Dave & Bekka joined and whilst Billy was away (hence Michael Thompson), she then did the odd bit of overdubbing later on the others' tracks when the whole Time band was put together, resulting in her comment of the music was starting to get a little strange, the choices a little funny. I wasn't really enjoying that particular incarnation of the band, and I left. . It might account for her comment that she worked with John and Mick for a couple of years prior to the release of the record. For part of 1993 and part of 1994, there would have been no Dave, Bekka and Billy. Just my hypothesis...

[wetcamelfood]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

Isn't it possible that Chris, John & Mick laid down most of the work on her 5 tracks from Time even before Dave & Bekka joined and whilst Billy was away (hence Michael Thompson), she then did the odd bit of overdubbing later on the others' tracks when the whole Time band was put together, resulting in her comment of the music was starting to get a little strange, the choices a little funny. I wasn't really enjoying that particular incarnation of the band, and I left. . It might account for her comment that she worked with John and Mick for a couple of years prior to the release of the record. For part of 1993 and part of 1994, there would have been no Dave, Bekka and Billy. Just my hypothesis...

Yeah I guess that's possible, maybe I'm too much of conspiracy theorist but I'd be surprised if the whole Christine/Dave thing had nothing to do with Thompson being there.

John

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

Yeah I guess that's possible, maybe I'm too much of conspiracy theorist but I'd be surprised if the whole Christine/Dave thing had nothing to do with Thompson being there.

John

The more I read about this, the more I think you're correct.

[SteveMacD]

My theory has always been that Christine was there from the beginning, but started pulling back after Dave Mason joined. I think the only songs she wasn't on were the album version of "Blow By Blow" (as in I think she was on the 1994 "Soccer Rocks the Globe"version) and "These Strange Times" because the operative word on the album was "additional".

How tired was Christine of the other "new" members of the "Time" band? So tired that the closing track of her 2004 solo album was cowritten with and featured Billy Burnette. We've known for years that Christine wasn't happy with Dave Mason. However, we've just learned that Bekka wasn't happy with Dave, nor was Richard Dashut, in the past year.

Why the hell they kept him around is beyond me. A tour with Mick, John, Bekka, Billy, Neale, and Brett would have been great.

[aleuzzi]

no matter how murky the backstory to Time may be, I do think it is, by and large, a far superior album to Behind The Mask. The sound is cleaner, more organic (minus the tinny keyboards) and Bekka and Billy sound great together. Christine's songs are an unexpected treat. Her voice is fantastic on all of them. With the exception of "All Over Again," the songs are strong and, given proper arrangements and editing, would have made great contributions to a Rumours-era album. As they stand, "Hollywood" and "Nights in Estoril" are already excellent.