Still think Stevie is going to do the FM album?

[JohnL]

Big Bad Stevie is just making Fleetwood Mac wait and wait for her. I call BS on all this. if she said the sky were blue a lot of you here would say it was another color just to bitch about her. She hung in with this group while being the only female for years. Why would she walk away now that Christine is back? Take a pill...

[olive]

Originally Posted by JohnL

Big Bad Stevie is just making Fleetwood Mac wait and wait for her. I call BS on all this. if she said the sky were blue a lot of you here would say it was another color just to bitch about her. She hung in with this group while being the only female for years. Why would she walk away now that Christine is back? Take a pill...

Because she know she has a limited time to accomplish for herself and she is back to being respected ( thank liz rosenberg )and not the butt of the joke

plus she made enough cash on this tour to keep her from worrying for awhile

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by olive

Because she know she has a limited time to accomplish for herself and she is back to being respected ( thank liz rosenberg )and not the butt of the joke

plus she made enough cash on this tour to keep her from worrying for awhile

If Stevie is dumb enough to screw up the best thing that's happened to this band since 1997 - she deserves to be the butt of a joke.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

If Stevie is dumb enough to screw up the best thing that's happened to this band since 1997 - she deserves to be the butt of a joke.

But she's not the only dumb one. In fact, she seems to be the smartest.

I'm just thinking of that 1994 interview where Stevie said when she went on her solo tours,

They'd be waiting for me like anxious cats.

She's been dangling catnip for decades now. The others should put an end to this cycle. Their album is not going to sell anyway, Stevie or no Stevie. So, if they're waiting because they think they are going to go platinum and get a Grammy if Stevie is on board, they're so stupid I don't even know why I'm wasting my time.

Michele

[secondhandchain]

Just say yes or no Stevie. It's ridiculous all ready. There is def. a ban on questions about the album.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by michelej1

She's been dangling catnip for decades now. The others should put an end to this cycle. Their album is not going to sell anyway, Stevie or no Stevie. So, if they're waiting because they think they are going to go platinum and get a Grammy if Stevie is on board, they're so stupid I don't even know why I'm wasting my time.

Michele

I'll still bet you that it sells far better than SYW. At least a million.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I'll still bet you that it sells far better than SYW. At least a million.

I guess I can agree with you that it would sell more than SYW with Stevie, but not without her.

Would it be more critically acclaimed than SYW, even without Stevie? I bet there's a good chance.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

Sorry being a FM Debbie downer and harsh plus and so non FM .At this point I really dont care if Stevie goes to record with FM at this point.The topic is getting tiring.Sorry to be crude.

Whatever she does and its fine with me.She can go and sing an opera album is fine with me. Anyway who said its mandatory that she got to record a new album with FM.

If they record without her.They can hire Paulette Carlson to replace her.

On a positive note I hope this game will pan out in the meantime and enjoy the rest of this tour.

[SteveMacD]

Why does she get a pass on the "you're in or you're out" rule? That's how it was for Lindsey and for Christine. If Stevie doesn't want to be on the album, she shouldn't be in the band. Anyway, Fleetwood Mac already tried the "only half a member of the band" experiment, and it didn't work.

[olive]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Why does she get a pass on the "you're in or you're out" rule? .

Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by olive

Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act

Isn't that the truth!

I don't understand why so many have to be so damned bitter about Stevie's success and her role in Fleetwood Mac. It is what it is. They aren't going to kick her out because she is the bread and butter anymore. Sorry, but it is the truth. Christine is amazing and a huge celebrated draw for this tour, but Fleetwood Mac wasn't having trouble selling tickets without her.

I'd love a new FM album as much as anyone, by the way.

Everyone is so quick to blame Stevie for no new album (yet), when the fact is they aren't even signed to a label. Are people expecting what will likely be their *last* album ever to be released independently like that half-assed EP? No label = no album, and that's not Stevie's fault.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by olive

Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act

Because that would totally happen with two people who combined had TWELVE of seventeen of Fleetwood Mac's top 40 singles still in the band. As a personality, Stevie is hands down the biggest name in the band, however, she's not bigger than the band. What's next for La Nicks? Another straight to the cut-out bin album produced by Dave Stewart followed by stints as a "special guest" in Tom's band or Don's band or opening for Rod Stewart?

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

I don't understand why so many have to be so damned bitter about Stevie's success and her role in Fleetwood Mac. It is what it is. They aren't going to kick her out because she is the bread and butter anymore. Sorry, but it is the truth.

It depends. If Lindsey and Christine say "she's in or she's out, and if not, we're out," then what's Mick going to do? Do you think he'd choose to go on without Lindsey and Christine over Stevie?

Christine is amazing and a huge celebrated draw for this tour, but Fleetwood Mac wasn't having trouble selling tickets without her.

But, not to this degree. This tour is unlike anything they've done in decades. They were doing okay, but this is a whole different beast.

Everyone is so quick to blame Stevie for no new album (yet), when the fact is they aren't even signed to a label. Are people expecting what will likely be their *last* album ever to be released independently like that half-assed EP? No label = no album, and that's not Stevie's fault.

OR...

We have an album that is finished, and now we're shopping for a label.

A Fleetwood Mac album with the classic lineup AND not having to pay an advance so it can be recorded?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

We have an album that is finished, and now we're shopping for a label.

Indeed, the new material is what you offer to the interested labels or to drum up interest. We saw that with Destiny Rules.

Michele

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Because that would totally happen with two people who combined had TWELVE of seventeen of Fleetwood Mac's top 40 singles still in the band. As a personality, Stevie is hands down the biggest name in the band, however, she's not bigger than the band. What's next for La Nicks? Another straight to the cut-out bin album produced by Dave Stewart followed by stints as a "special guest" in Tom's band or Don's band or opening for Rod Stewart?

I agree wholeheartedly that when it comes to FM, that the sum is far greater than it's parts. But if we dissect the band, that doesn't mean the parts outlay equally. Even though Christine was the hit maker of the band, she couldn't even partially fill theaters 30 years ago at the height of her fame. With some exceptions, Lindsey is in the same boat. Stevie has been the only one who could ever tour amphitheaters solo, although that boat seems to have slipped away from her this past decade. Combine all of the venues that Chris, Lindsey, and Stevie can sell on their own, and they still wouldn't equal half of what FM can do total.

So yes, Stevie is the largest draw- but FM is still far more than the sum of it's parts. The band has tried all sorts of combinations without Lindsey, without Chris, without Stevie & Lindsey, etc and it's the Rumours 5 that take this band to the next level, period.

Regarding Stevie's press gag on a new FM album, there are some very valid reasons why that could be in place. Is Stevie reticent to say there will certainly be a new album because John's continued good health may not be a given? Maybe she's worried about Chris bolting after the drama that is the road. Perhaps she's afraid that she herself may encounter too much drama on the road with the band, and will want a break afterwards. Maybe she just wants to write some new material and get it into demo form after the tour so she'll have something fresh to bring to the table. The possibilities are endless.

That being said, it IS Stevie who is holding up a new album, any way you slice it. Whether her intentions are noble, or she's dangling her participation as leverage isn't clear. I just hope something comes out of this drama, and in a timely fashion.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Everyone is so quick to blame Stevie for no new album (yet), when the fact is they aren't even signed to a label. Are people expecting what will likely be their *last* album ever to be released independently like that half-assed EP? No label = no album, and that's not Stevie's fault.

If they had a new album, then they'd get a label. They didn't have a label chosen when they were recording SYW.

Having no label is not the hold up on this album. And why is there always one excuse after another for why the delay is not Stevie's fault?

First, people were arguing that she probably agreed to record with them, but she did it secretly and her silence shouldn't mean anything -- because heaven knows this gal is the quiet type and wouldn't mention anything like working on an FM album!

Then, people were saying she would record a new album when her commitment to WB was fulfilled, because if she didn't finish her contract with WB right now, they would send hit men after her. So, you know, she didn't really have a choice. She just had to do 24K RIGHT NOW.

Now, the problem is not Stevie, but it's the fact that they don't have a label?

If Stevie was in line, everything else would fall into place and I don't know know why people are arguing that it's not her that's delaying an album, because she's not denying that. I think she's pretty darned proud of the fact that she is dictating FM's next steps and that the others have their noses bent out of shape waiting for her. It makes her feel it's the 1980s all over again.

Michele