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Old 12-19-2014, 02:39 PM
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I saw some things on this tour (3 shows) that I've never seen in many years of seeing FMac.

1. The lack of interaction between Lindsey and Stevie. There still is some, but this is the least I've ever seen it. Past tours have had so much more. I guess Mick's book sums up the SYW recordings where Stevie expected the two to renew some chemistry and it only went in the opposite direction. On a bright spot, this seems to be changing for the better. Let's hope they want to write and sing together again. The magic is building.

2. Lot's of interaction between Stevie and Christine. This is kind of new to me. They did a little on the Cage and BTM shows, but the friendliness and Stevie's excitement seems fresh and even 'non-staged'. I can tell how happy she is that Christine is back. Her voice and stage presence have really flourished of late and I think it's because the 5 of them are together again. Some friendly competition perhaps? Very healthy.

3. There's always been a lot of Lindsey and Christine interaction throughout the years, but to see them collaborating on new music and the hugging and kissing and the genuine friendship they keep displaying has been better than ever. Lindsey's face lights up when he talks about Christine in interviews. I love how he refers to her as, "The beautiful Christine". Those studio recordings the four of them participated in must have been amazing. Especially because he was the one least enthused about her return in the beginning.

I think all the album drama is just a matter of Stevie wanting to control her own destiny. That's my bottom line statement on the whole album matter. In my opinion the quality of her work has always been better within the band. Fireflies!
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I think all the album drama is just a matter of Stevie wanting to control her own destiny.
Bingo. Some fans really seem to have a problem with this.
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:15 PM
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Bingo. Some fans really seem to have a problem with this.
Because if you are in a band there are compromises. You don't get everything you want. She's trying to get it all.
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Because if you are in a band there are compromises. You don't get everything you want. She's trying to get it all.
Actually, I don't think she's trying to "get" anything. If anything, she's giving them all what they want by even being on this tour. So, who's getting what? Stevie could be on her own tour, playing to her own sold out crowds.

If anyone in Fleetwood Mac is getting what they want, it sure as hell isn't Stevie.
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Bingo. Some fans really seem to have a problem with this.
why would fans have a problem with someone controlling their own destiny?

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Actually, I don't think she's trying to "get" anything. If anything, she's giving them all what they want by even being on this tour. So, who's getting what?
wait? are you implying Nicks doesn't want to tour with FM either? and we know she doesn't want to record with them. what is left then? wouldn't that mean she shouldn't be in the band that she has absolutely no interest in anymore?

i don't know why anyone would have a problem with a person controlling what they want to do. people have a problem by somebody controlling what the whole band wants to do. (unless that person is Jon Bon Jovi in a band with his name, and people still may have a problem with that too. )
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Stevie could be on her own tour, playing to her own sold out crowds.
really? you may know those statistics much better than me but by the cursory look it seems that the only venues she sells out are the same venues even Lindsey was playing solo on his own, without any band.
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really? you may know those statistics much better than me but by the cursory look it seems that the only venues she sells out are the same venues even Lindsey was playing solo on his own, without any band.
Sold out crowds of her own? Not even with Rod Stewart.
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It's quite humorous that someone who is allegedly a musical genius is spending so much time begging someone to work with him. Perhaps it's time he found someone else to push his slick artsy pop sound upon.
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Sold out crowds of her own? Not even with Rod Stewart.
I think that was in reference to places like the Wiltern theater that usually hold about 2500 give or take.
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I saw some things on this tour (3 shows) that I've never seen in many years of seeing FMac.

1. The lack of interaction between Lindsey and Stevie. There still is some, but this is the least I've ever seen it. Past tours have had so much more. I guess Mick's book sums up the SYW recordings where Stevie expected the two to renew some chemistry and it only went in the opposite direction. On a bright spot, this seems to be changing for the better. Let's hope they want to write and sing together again. The magic is building.
Lindsey has been very clear that he would love to work with her again. there's no need to hope there.
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1. The lack of interaction between Lindsey and Stevie.
Now that Christine is back and eager to make new music, he probably doesn't feel the need to go out of his way to smooth things over with Stevie anymore. He has a partner in the band now. Stevie can be in it or not.

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Especially because he was the one least enthused about her return in the beginning.
I don't think he wasn't enthusiastic about her return, I think he was skeptical about it because of how crystal clear she made it to them and everybody else that she was finished. As for anything related to the 2013 tour, I think that was purely business. Once Christine was officially back, I bet he was the most enthusiastic because there was going to be new Fleetwood Mac.

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I think all the album drama is just a matter of Stevie wanting to control her own destiny.
The funny thing is that nobody really has control over their own destiny. If something happened to any one of them tomorrow, "Tango In The Night" would be her destiny with the classic Fleetwood Mac. If she's comfortable leaving that be the last statement, so be it.
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