Some thoughts about this band's future pivotal direction points from a young fan (me)

[FuzzyPlum]

What exactly is this thread all about?
Have you had a glass of wine or two?

[Sanne2]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

What exactly is this thread all about?
Have you had a glass of wine or two?

....and some pills?

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

What exactly is this thread all about?
Have you had a glass of wine or two?

...thats not to be rude by the way-after all 'tis the season to be jolly. Have one on me.

[secret love]

To be clear

Seasons greetings!
No wine.

I am a little loopy by nature and I take a little pill called Seroquel (quetiapine as fumarate).

Medicare picks up the gap in the cheque and I co-pay $5.50 per script, to stop me from going mental I take 150 mg per day.

I am not stressed; I am anti-stressed.

Just like people with depression are not depressed; but they are anti-depressed.

Anyway.

Thanks guys for the understanding.

That thread, this thread sorry, is about Fleetwood Mac being a bunch of idiots, particularly the one GIRL who was never meant to be included in the group:

Stevie; Lindsey's ex-girlfriend, he let her come in with him "package deal" oh "it didn't look good for you now, did it, Stevie?"

etc etc.


And she kicks him Mr Buck in the teeth after he helped her grow her fame and wealth to a point where even Stevie herself surpassed Lindsey's wealth and talent.

Stevie is trying to pivot herself into artist management and artistic expression/ anti-celebrity mode.

It is not working.
She cannot sell her own product without Liz Rozenberg and Dave Stewart or Dave Grohl.

So really, why when she has a neat little trio set up plus Karen Johnston, then why does she --- pivot back away from Fleetwood Mac the band that she almost made her own? The people who gave her a home in the music biz and she kicks them in the teeth and refuses to honour the time-honoured agreement that if they tour, they also record and if they do a record --it is five a-piece, always, even if one doesn't pull her weight EVER.

What. A Rat. Of a woman........

[SisterNightroad]

We don't really know Stevie nor Lindsey, we just know what they let us know about them, so I think we shouldn't say things like "Lindsey would give his mate a hug; Stevie would sooner kick her Mates while they are down and her chips are up, up,up". I also think that we shouldn't care so much about their personality as such that what they do is MUSIC, they're not teachers or psychologists or doctors so it's a scandal for us if they're egocentric, all stars are egoentric, or they wouldn't have wanted to be famous, they would have been again teachers or psychologists or doctors.
I understand that you must be in a place of your life that is difficult and you're projecting your thoughts and emotions on outward and more controllable things but you should be aware that this behaviour doesn't reflects on yourself.

[PenguinHead]

A stream of ADD thought?

[bethelblues]

I'd like to see the band play with their voices more in any (hopefully) future recordings.

- a song with Stevie AND Christine singing lead. Does one even exist? These fools don't realize you can actually write songs for other people and not only for yourself.

- a song with Lindsey AND Christine singing together, where Stevie can also be heard

- another song with Stevie AND Lindsey singing together, where Christine can also be heard in background vocals

[mitzo]

What is your most important project that the band could or "should" work on in its short to mid-term (x2 questions there) future?
Put out at least a double album as soon as they can.

Do you like a certain band member more than another?
Yes.

Do you like a certain songwriter more than another?
Yes.

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?
Yes indeed! I think that combo, out from under the shadow of certain people, could really work magic.


Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?
Bass is vital to FM. And I would like to see Lindsey stick to what he does best .... playing guitars, singing backup, and producing.


Do you believe in this band's collective willpower overthrowing any selective interest groups, or not really?
I think the band has, like, three or four willpowers and not one.

Do you think that these people are smooth musical operators?
No.

Or do you think they are a promotors' "worst nightmare"?
They are probably OK for promoters to deal with.

Do you believe in word of mouth or do you favour the Internet and the social media spread of words/written texts?
I believe in both.

[elle]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?
Yes indeed! I think that combo, out from under the shadow of certain people, could really work magic.

yes. bad Mick and Lindsey, always casting their shadows over poor other band members.

Originally Posted by mitzo

Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?
[I]Bass is vital to FM. And I would like to see Lindsey stick to what he does best .... playing guitars, singing backup, and producing.

why would you not want him to write songs anymore? he definitely wrote some spectacular songs in the last 2 decades, actually.

it's interesting, you seem to be rare SN (?) fan who wants LB producing FM. most of them seem to be up in arms about his production, seemingly cause SN was slamming him over SYW production of her songs.

btw, i loved that part of LB interview on Tavis Smiley yesterday was when he was asked "are you better guitarist now than in FM heyday" and he, without hesitation, responded "oh yeah" "without question".

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

btw, i loved that part of LB interview on Tavis Smiley yesterday was when he was asked "are you better guitarist now than in FM heyday" and he, without hesitation, responded "oh yeah" "without question".

He's a way better acoustic player these days, but he's not as good a lead player as he was. He's a bore these days by contrast. Having all of those extra musicians seems to have made him much less adventurous with the live arrangements as far as his leads go.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by elle

yes. bad Mick and Lindsey, always casting their shadows over poor other band members.


why would you not want him to write songs anymore? he definitely wrote some spectacular songs in the last 2 decades, actually.

it's interesting, you seem to be rare SN (?) fan who wants LB producing FM. most of them seem to be up in arms about his production, seemingly cause SN was slamming him over SYW production of her songs.

btw, i loved that part of LB interview on Tavis Smiley yesterday was when he was asked "are you better guitarist now than in FM heyday" and he, without hesitation, responded "oh yeah" "without question".

Lindsey is a brilliant producer and musician. He pulls the very best from both Stevie and Christine. He provides the energy and texture with his playing and backup vocals. But his own singing and writing give me cramps. Just one person's opinion.

[jbrownsjr]

I saw some things on this tour (3 shows) that I've never seen in many years of seeing FMac.

1. The lack of interaction between Lindsey and Stevie. There still is some, but this is the least I've ever seen it. Past tours have had so much more. I guess Mick's book sums up the SYW recordings where Stevie expected the two to renew some chemistry and it only went in the opposite direction. On a bright spot, this seems to be changing for the better. Let's hope they want to write and sing together again. The magic is building.

2. Lot's of interaction between Stevie and Christine. This is kind of new to me. They did a little on the Cage and BTM shows, but the friendliness and Stevie's excitement seems fresh and even 'non-staged'. I can tell how happy she is that Christine is back. Her voice and stage presence have really flourished of late and I think it's because the 5 of them are together again. Some friendly competition perhaps? Very healthy.

3. There's always been a lot of Lindsey and Christine interaction throughout the years, but to see them collaborating on new music and the hugging and kissing and the genuine friendship they keep displaying has been better than ever. Lindsey's face lights up when he talks about Christine in interviews. I love how he refers to her as, "The beautiful Christine". Those studio recordings the four of them participated in must have been amazing. Especially because he was the one least enthused about her return in the beginning.

I think all the album drama is just a matter of Stevie wanting to control her own destiny. That's my bottom line statement on the whole album matter. In my opinion the quality of her work has always been better within the band. Fireflies!

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I think all the album drama is just a matter of Stevie wanting to control her own destiny.

Bingo. Some fans really seem to have a problem with this.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Bingo. Some fans really seem to have a problem with this.

Because if you are in a band there are compromises. You don't get everything you want. She's trying to get it all.

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Because if you are in a band there are compromises. You don't get everything you want. She's trying to get it all.

Actually, I don't think she's trying to "get" anything. If anything, she's giving them all what they want by even being on this tour. So, who's getting what? Stevie could be on her own tour, playing to her own sold out crowds.

If anyone in Fleetwood Mac is getting what they want, it sure as hell isn't Stevie.