Mick Fleetwood--Piece of junk human?

[xdreamsunwindx]

Originally posted by BellaDonnaGypsy
Shall I continue until they make me shut up? You're a bad influence, Kate!

But yes, both Clem and Jimmy (thank God he's back... we were so scared that he had defected to The Misfits) did interviews with Kat... I think it must have been backstage after some of the Australian shows.

Laura.

And proud of it! Yay Jimmy's back! I *heart* him, after all, he wrote 11:59, I looove that song...

[xdreamsunwindx]

Originally posted by BellaDonnaGypsy
OK, I'm going to start a Blondie thread in the chit chat forum, since I feel severe guilt over being so far off topic.

Laura.

(goes off to post away in thread)

[dissention]

Originally posted by tommer
1. it could be nice if both you and eric would start considering some heavier thinking processes before you write.
of course the man is no angel, but on the other hand, despite what you may think he's one of the world's greatest drummers, he is the man who kept this great band alive through thick and thin for 36+ years, and like it or not, he's the man who's responsible to the fact that lindsey and stevie have careers at all.
please show SOME respect.

2. he's money hungry alright. yes, sometimes it's becoming unfair to us fans, but overall i'd say that his money grabbing is beneficial for most of us.
what can i say, usually i enjoy spending money on FM. example: i'll be going to see them in london pretty soon, and it's about to cost me at least 1500$, honestly, i don't really have this money right now, will mick be responsible for this upcoming overdraft? no.
this money grabbing can end with this wretched fanclub on one hand or Tango In The Night on the other.

3. the fact that i'm smoking a nice ganja as i write this, doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours if you don't mind.

My thinking process is perfectly fine, if others don't like my opinions, they don't have to agree. But I don't need to be told that my "thinking process" is off base. I find that quite rude.

1. It's a matter of *OPINION* whether or not someone thinks he's one of the "greatest" drummers. He's a good drummer in my book, but not one of the greatest in the world. It's a matter of opinion and personal taste.

2. I don't have to respect him for hooking up with Lindsey and Stevie. That's a bit far-fetched.

3. If you can explain how the fan club is beneficial to most of us, I'd be open to hearing you explain it. If you can explain how his "book" was beneficial to us, please explain. The things he does are beneficial to him and his cohorts (the band included), plain and simple.

I respect his music, but I don't respect *him*. He's proven what an arse he is and that's enough for me.

Once again, if someone doesn't agree, more power to ya. Our opinions are what make us unique. but don't insult people if you don't agree.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by EricBliss12345
I was just wondering, because rarely if ever do I read nice things about him here.

There's all kinds of nice talk about Stevie, Lindsey and Chris, and people usually say nothing about poor John. Mick however seems to get the most ugly comments out of all of them. They aren't even rediculously frequent or anything, I just noticed that there seems to be some kind of problem with him in things I read here time to time. I've even read that some people think his message board is wierd or something.

I know I remember reading that his book was basically trash and should never have been released. But why else?

Just curious.

Peace

Eric

If you really want to check out the Mick Fleetwood scene, I would recommend www.mickfleetwood.com. Don't forget to check out the chat board.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by tommer
he's the man who's responsible to the fact that lindsey and stevie have careers at all.

I am 100% convinced that they would have been famous anyway.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
I am 100% convinced that they would have been famous anyway.

Me too!!!! esp. Stevie. because by her own admission, she was just far too ambitious!!!

[tommer]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
I am 100% convinced that they would have been famous anyway.

do you really think every worthwhile talent gets its proper fame and recognition? you (and i) wish!

Dissention, i read your post and it contained not even a single argument which could have made me change my mind or take back anything i've said.
again, my point is that mick's money hunger was joyfully accepted on my side of the wallet, and usually my heart as well.
i wish some day MY desire for money could cause as much satisfaction as mick's.
as much as i hate the fanclub and its evil ruler, it DID in fact help me get a 5th row ticket.

[diamondsnake]

I kind of admire Mick. I didn't get mixed up in the whole Fan Club thing, so maybe that is one reason why I don't have anything against him. I think it is great that he is making money, he deserves it! Tons of celebs have written books and I'm sure everyone knows that you should not take what you are reading as fact. From all the interviews I have seen he is very funny and seems like a nice guy. He and Stevie are my favorites in the band... And of course, Chris. But I guess she doesn't count anymore!

[dissention]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I kind of admire Mick.

Would you like to explain a little bit on why you admire him?

[diamondsnake]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
I am 100% convinced that they would have been famous anyway.

I don't think so. They needed to get on their feet somehow. They already had an album before they came to FM and it went no where!

[diamondsnake]

Originally posted by dissention
Would you like to explain a little bit on why you admire him?

Well first of all he was a cofounder of my favorite band of all time! Also, I still don't understand how you say that the fans are paying for his "money hunger". How are they? If you are refering to the fan club, I doubt very much he is responsible. He is just way to busy to be single handedly running a fan club. I think maybe it was his idea and he was going to be the band member that was the most involved. Still, I think the person who is responsible is that guy who is actually running the financial department and what the "goodies" are that they are giving away. I never signed up for it because I can spot a ripoff a mile away. They don't even send you anything in the mail!

Back to the question at hand. I also admire Mick because he is so enthusiastic at all the concerts. Just look at him on The Dance video and see how much fun he is having...

Also, I'm money hingry to. I just have never had the change to make a ton. So I say Mick, more power to ya!

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I don't think so. They needed to get on their feet somehow. They already had an album before they came to FM and it went no where!

Actually the album did very well in the south. I think Stevie and Lindsey would have continued to "break" out of the south and gone national. They had the right sound, in the right place at the right time, no question. Wasn't Lindsey gigging with the Everly Brothers around this time too?

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by tommer

as much as i hate the fanclub and its evil ruler, it DID in fact help me get a 5th row ticket.

Yes, apparently the only thing necessary for success with a fan club presale is to live on another continent.

[FiercestCalmSea]

I think Piece of Junk is quite a harsh thing to call someone,unless of course you live in a glass house I am not the biggest Mick fan by a long shot..but the man is a great drummer..and yea,so he comes off as way $$ hungry..it is annoying..he has ****ty choice in people who represent him...but overall..i can name alot of people with worse attributes than him.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Actually the album did very well in the south. I think Stevie and Lindsey would have continued to "break" out of the south and gone national. They had the right sound, in the right place at the right time, no question. Wasn't Lindsey gigging with the Everly Brothers around this time too?

I, and many other people including celebrities, famous producers, fellow rock stars, and seasoned session players, have mentioned that LB and, perhaps even more so, SN (not in a musical instrument way per se but in a star quality/songwriter way) had a special quality that went beyond talent - almost like they were chosen or destined to be great if I may wax poetic. So, while I get that for every talented star, there nine others that do not make it for many reasons, I also think LB and SN would have made it, esp. considering Stevie's professed ambition (which I have never heard that LB shared), they were somewhat on their way in the South, and LB was getting solid work touring with a well known band.

Also, I have briefly met Stevie a couple of times and been within one foot of her at concerts, touched her hands, etc., and let me tell you that she glows as if a light is coming from her and it makes you think there is noone else there - now that is star power to me. I know that sounds insane, but I swear its true In fact, others have commented on it.

But, others have their opinion on such things and I respect that!!