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Old 08-26-2003, 12:16 PM
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Question Mick Fleetwood--Piece of junk human?

I was just wondering, because rarely if ever do I read nice things about him here.

There's all kinds of nice talk about Stevie, Lindsey and Chris, and people usually say nothing about poor John. Mick however seems to get the most ugly comments out of all of them. They aren't even rediculously frequent or anything, I just noticed that there seems to be some kind of problem with him in things I read here time to time. I've even read that some people think his message board is wierd or something.

I know I remember reading that his book was basically trash and should never have been released. But why else?

Just curious.

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Old 08-26-2003, 12:54 PM
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There's nothing wrong with lving money a lot, we all do. But Mick takes it to the extreme where it's like he see's all of us as his cash cows and he'll do whatever he can do to make a quick buck. People like that sicken me and don't deserve my respect.

He's always tried to make money through the years and it's partially because he doesn't know how to manage finances for ****. After all, Fleetwood Mac fired him as their manager because he was so ****ty with money. He went bankrupt for making ****ty land deals and whores out the other band members so that he gets more money.

He wrote a book that was full of embellishments and lies, not because people cared about him, but because they cared about Lindsey, Stevie, and Chris and wanted to hear about them. So, he made money off of the misfortune of others. Nevermind the fact that Mick was one of the biggest cokeheads and what he wrote in his "book" was probably all fiction and lies. I wouldn't even call it a book, I'd call it "literary excrement."

Like Bob Welch said, as long as Mick has money rolling in, Mick doesn't care what kinds of people he gets involved with. He hired the likes of a certain Jonathan Todd and I think that speaks for itself.

Jonathan Todd has stolen money, tried to make money off of other people like the sweet Pip, he's corrupted the computers of people who disagree with his tactics, and he's trashing Fleetwood Mac in the process. And, here's the kicker, Mick Fleetwood knows all about it. Anyone who would argue the contrary smokes cannabis.

So, for those reasons and MANY more, I think Mick is a piece of junk. And he ain't the best drummer by far, either.
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Old 08-26-2003, 01:21 PM
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JC! No one is a piece of junk. Maybe someone who molests children or beats people to a bloody pulp or anyone who harms animals for no reasons...but Mick Fleetwood, just because he is money hungry, isn't a piece of junk. He's just someone who wants to retire, have money for his kids and grandkids. He must feel alot of guilt losing soooooooo much money, I bet Stevie is the same way. Im sure they both would like to die knowing their family are taken care of for years and years. Im sure Mick just wants to have a dynasty.
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Old 08-26-2003, 01:54 PM
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And he ain't the best drummer by far, either.
I'd have to disagree with that... there are a lot of terms that could be used to describe the man, but one thing he is not is a bad drummer.

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Old 08-26-2003, 01:59 PM
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Im sure Mick just wants to have a dynasty.
But see, my point is that Mick will spare no expense (no pun intended! ) to have his dynasty. He doesn't care how he makes his money, even if it's in the dirtiest way or at the expense of others that aren't as fortunate as he is.

Laura--

I don't think Mick is a bad drummer, he's a great drummer. But he is FAR from the best. You want to see or hear one of the best drummers out there, check out Clem Burke; he puts Mick to shame.
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But see, my point is that Mick will spare no expense (no pun intended! ) to have his dynasty. He doesn't care how he makes his money, even if it's in the dirtiest way or at the expense of others that aren't as fortunate as he is.

Laura--

I don't think Mick is a bad drummer, he's a great drummer. But he is FAR from the best. You want to see or hear one of the best drummers out there, check out Clem Burke; he puts Mick to shame.
(squeals) CLEM!!! FINALLY some recignition of him, he is one of the best drummers ever. Adrian Young isn't too bad either.
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Check out Clem Burke? I don't need to... I've seen Blondie live ten times. And Kate, how did I know you would pop your head up at the mention of Clem? It's true, he does deserve more recognition. However, they have completely different styles of drumming. You can't really compare them in that way.

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And Kate, how did I know you would pop your head up at the mention of Clem? It's true, he does deserve more recognition. However, they have completely different styles of drumming. You can't really compare them in that way.

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I have a Blondie radar. I sense these things from afar. Auk! The official site is calling... (goes to official site)

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Old 08-26-2003, 02:14 PM
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I think Mick's a pretty good drummer. I'm no expert, but his drumming on Rumours sounds really good to me. Maybe it's just my speakers.
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Let me just add that, when I think of Mick's most impressive drumming, I think pre Rumours. So I may be using a slightly different reference point to some of you. It's strange though... people in the most random places point to Mick as an inspiration. I know drummers in punk bands that give props to the pre Rumours stuff.

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I have a Blondie radar. I sense these things from afar. Auk! The official site is calling... (goes to official site)
Ah, you have Blondie radar too! I always know when they're on television... I just get this feeling... and I turn it on, and voila! And why is the official site calling? Chris better not have updated again...

Yes, this is so far off topic it's somewhere on the boundaries of our solar system, but I promise not to do it again!

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Ah, you have Blondie radar too! I always know when they're on television... I just get this feeling... and I turn it on, and voila! And why is the official site calling? Chris better not have updated again...

Yes, this is so far off topic it's somewhere on the boundaries of our solar system, but I promise not to do it again!

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I don't know why but it just is. Da da!

Gah... Chris has not yet updated. Dammit... But, I think Clem did this interview thingie with one of the webmasters/whatever...


And, being off topic is fun!
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Shall I continue until they make me shut up? You're a bad influence, Kate!

But yes, both Clem and Jimmy (thank God he's back... we were so scared that he had defected to The Misfits) did interviews with Kat... I think it must have been backstage after some of the Australian shows.

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OK, I'm going to start a Blondie thread in the chit chat forum, since I feel severe guilt over being so far off topic.

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There's nothing wrong with lving money a lot, we all do. But Mick takes it to the extreme where it's like he see's all of us as his cash cows and he'll do whatever he can do to make a quick buck. People like that sicken me and don't deserve my respect.

He's always tried to make money through the years and it's partially because he doesn't know how to manage finances for ****. After all, Fleetwood Mac fired him as their manager because he was so ****ty with money. He went bankrupt for making ****ty land deals and whores out the other band members so that he gets more money.

He wrote a book that was full of embellishments and lies, not because people cared about him, but because they cared about Lindsey, Stevie, and Chris and wanted to hear about them. So, he made money off of the misfortune of others. Nevermind the fact that Mick was one of the biggest cokeheads and what he wrote in his "book" was probably all fiction and lies. I wouldn't even call it a book, I'd call it "literary excrement."

Like Bob Welch said, as long as Mick has money rolling in, Mick doesn't care what kinds of people he gets involved with. He hired the likes of a certain Jonathan Todd and I think that speaks for itself.

Jonathan Todd has stolen money, tried to make money off of other people like the sweet Pip, he's corrupted the computers of people who disagree with his tactics, and he's trashing Fleetwood Mac in the process. And, here's the kicker, Mick Fleetwood knows all about it. Anyone who would argue the contrary smokes cannabis.

So, for those reasons and MANY more, I think Mick is a piece of junk. And he ain't the best drummer by far, either.
1. it could be nice if both you and eric would start considering some heavier thinking processes before you write.
of course the man is no angel, but on the other hand, despite what you may think he's one of the world's greatest drummers, he is the man who kept this great band alive through thick and thin for 36+ years, and like it or not, he's the man who's responsible to the fact that lindsey and stevie have careers at all.
please show SOME respect.

2. he's money hungry alright. yes, sometimes it's becoming unfair to us fans, but overall i'd say that his money grabbing is beneficial for most of us.
what can i say, usually i enjoy spending money on FM. example: i'll be going to see them in london pretty soon, and it's about to cost me at least 1500$, honestly, i don't really have this money right now, will mick be responsible for this upcoming overdraft? no.
this money grabbing can end with this wretched fanclub on one hand or Tango In The Night on the other.

3. the fact that i'm smoking a nice ganja as i write this, doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours if you don't mind.
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