Christine & Lindsey relationship - thoughts?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

I'm don't doubt that he did or that she said that. I tend to believe what Christine says. I was just pointing out the he said/she said dynamics in the band that is always there.

I don't think their versions are mutually exclusive. I mean, Lindsey's position might not have been static, but evolving instead.

I also think that they all thought if they just gave her a little time off, let her breathe, that she would change her mind and come back. And she did. It just took a few more years than they believed it would.

But I could see Lindsey trying to convince her to stay, then seeing that it might backfire if he pushed too hard and supporting her "survival move" and then when she didn't return after all, he was upset.

Michele

[Deeshere]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't think their versions are mutually exclusive. I mean, Lindsey's position might not have been static, but evolving instead.

I also think that they all thought if they just gave her a little time off, let her breathe, that she would change her mind and come back. And she did. It just took a few more years than they believed it would.

But I could see Lindsey trying to convince her to stay, then seeing that it might backfire if he pushed too hard and supporting her "survival move" and then when she didn't return after all, he was upset.

Michele

Not sure if I agree it evolved...I know Lindsey comments regarding Christine in the past were a little sharp, but that's the way he talks. Depending on his mood at the time he's being interviewed he can be very blunt and not pull any punches or be very philosophical and sweet. It's just the way he is, it's the way he's always been.

I know a lot of fan think Lindsey was or is mad at Christine because she left the band in 97 but I don't see it that way.

I agree that the band members thought if they let Christine go she would eventually come back and I think that's one of the reasons it took so long for them to get back in the studio to record SYW, but all in all I don't think Lindsey was THAT upset. He had his own personal issues to deal with at the time. He was with Kristen and had just found out she was pregnant, He had his own solo work that was just sitting in the studio collecting dust, and if Stevie's lyrics in "Thrown Down" are to believed..."He fell for her again, she watched it happen" So I feel like he had enough stuff keeping him busy behind the scenes, without having to add the worry of if Christine was leaving the band or not.

I don't think he wanted the band to splinter again, so soon after they had reconnected in 97, and I think he probably DID want the band to tour Europe so he could make more money (raising a kid isn't cheap) but all in all I don't think he would have been that mad at Christine for leaving or even stayed mad at her for any length of time. Especially, when he did the exact same thing in 87.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

Not sure if I agree it evolved...I know Lindsey comments regarding Christine in the past were a little sharp, but that's the way he talks. Depending on his mood at the time he's being interviewed he can be very blunt and not pull any punches or be very philosophical and sweet. It's just the way he is, it's the way he's always been.

Yes, depending on his mood. In my view, his mood was scorned. There are things Lindsey says when he's angry that he doesn't when he's not. He can be blunt, but he exercises diplomacy. Just as we've seen with Stevie, he says some things when he's not trying to ingratiate himself with her that he wouldn't when he is.

If he wasn't bitter when Christine left, I don't think he would have made some of the comments that he did. And I interpreted his comments the same way I interpreted hers about him after he left.

It doesn't even matter if they felt the comments are true or not. My point is, they wouldn't say them if they weren't a bit angry, even if they'd always believed them secretly. Both Christine and Lindsey seemed to exhibit "sour grapes" behavior in the wake of the other's departure.

It's like Stevie saying that she and Lindsey let it all out in 1987, everything they'd held back in case they might get back together was thrown out in the big fight. I think jabs were made when Christine left that said to me that he wasn't as happy to have 30% more room as he kept saying he was.

Plus, I think the vibe felt like even Stevie was a little miffed at Christine for awhile. There was a petulance, 'well, if that's what Christine wants, that's what she gets'. A sense that everyone felt a little rejected.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

There was a petulance, 'well, if that's what Christine wants, that's what she gets'. A sense that everyone felt a little rejected.

Rejected, or miffed at the lost business opportunities? I suspect a bit of both.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Rejected, or miffed at the lost business opportunities? I suspect a bit of both.

Well, when the Dance ended, I think they were thinking of the lost money. They could have gotten millions if they'd toured in 1998 and I think they were all cognizant of the financial waste. But then years passed.

By 2003 they were still planning a big tour and I don't think any promoter told them they would get less money because of Christine's absence. So, no I don't think they were worried about the loss revenue so much. I think they just couldn't believe she would stay away from them and that her wanting out wasn't a passing phase. I think it was more personal than monetary.


Michele

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think they just couldn't believe she would stay away from them and that her wanting out wasn't a passing phase. I think it was more personal than monetary.

That should not have been a surprise. She quit touring in 1990, and made it known why she was sick of it. Some of her songs on "Time" made it clear she was "music'd out". If they could not see that her presence in the band was limited, then they were fools. It seemed obvious to me, and I'm guessing a lot of other people who were paying attention, that she was just going out on top. And who could blame her for that?

However, that Billy Burnette was on ITM only strengthens the argument that Christine wasn't as upset about the band's personnel choices as she was just sick of touring. Stevie and Lindsey shouldn't flatter themselves so much, and Mick and John should have known better

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

However, that Billy Burnette was on ITM only strengthens the argument that Christine wasn't as upset about the band's personnel choices as she was just sick of touring. Stevie and Lindsey shouldn't flatter themselves so much, and Mick and John should have known better

Well, I don't think people feel she disliked Billy or Rick.

Michele