Why the disdain for Mick?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by RockawayBlind

I don't hold a grudge against Mick. Frankly, I couldn't care less what he does or doesn't do. The question was asked, "Why do fans disdain Mick?" In my view, he has been disloyal to fellow band members and, to me, that shows a character flaw.

How was he disloyal, or MORE disloyal than the others? His book? Everything he said in his book was either taken from previous articles in magazines or has been corroborated since the book came out (even the night Lindsey quit). What about Lindsey's loyalty? He quit the band. What about Stevie's loyalty? She quit the band. Both have left him high and dry more than once, both bad-mouthed him in the press. Both have committed to tours or shows and have backed out at nearly the last minute. Oh, but THAT'S so easy to overlook. They've been canonized, Mick's just a drummer who contributed nothing to the band's success and longevity.

[RockawayBlind]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

How was he disloyal, or MORE disloyal than the others? His book? Everything he said in his book was either taken from previous articles in magazines or has been corroborated since the book came out (even the night Lindsey quit). What about Lindsey's loyalty? He quit the band. What about Stevie's loyalty? She quit the band. Both have left him high and dry more than once, both bad-mouthed him in the press. Both have committed to tours or shows and have backed out at nearly the last minute. Oh, but THAT'S so easy to overlook. They've been canonized, Mick's just a drummer who contributed nothing to the band's success and longevity.

That's a pretty dramatic take. Mick was disloyal by airing dirty laundry and, worse, lying about certain events. Just because things had been published, that doesn't excuse publishing cheap gossip about your friends.

And you're not going to get me to defend Lindsey's or Stevie's actions. They quit the band at some point? I'm not sure I care. As far as I can tell, this band, with its pathetic output in four decades, should have packed it up already. There will never be another Rumours. There will never be another Tusk. Perhaps at some point, it could have been possible. But these people have let their personal agendas, petty squabbles and greed overtake them, and as a result, the art has suffered.

And if I'm being honest, the biggest culprit is Stevie. She has really bought into the idea that she's a big star and everybody else should kowtow to her. You take that out of the equation, and we would have had at least three studio albums since The Dance.

And, yeah, Mick is kind of a fool.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by RockawayBlind

Mick was disloyal by airing dirty laundry

Umm...this IS the band that made "Rumours," right? That argument is completely ridiculous.

and, worse, lying about certain events.

Such as?

Just because things had been published, that doesn't excuse publishing cheap gossip about your friends.

They did a whole album full of cheap gossip.

[shackin'up]

I still hold Mick responsable for making SYW meat nor fish. It should have been a double CD with a decent tracklisting. He backend out.
But still, this band had so much bizarre personel changes that one can never really point at one man for letting that happen, on the positive sides and on all the negative sides. They were a mess on so many occasions that it always made victims. I love the guy for a lot of reasons. And I think he still made more bad than good choices in life.

[RockawayBlind]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Umm...this IS the band that made "Rumours," right? That argument is completely ridiculous.


Such as?


They did a whole album full of cheap gossip.

We're not going to change each other's minds. The question was asked about why people disdain Mick. And I answered it. Now you want me to cover the same old ground, detail by detail, to prove the man is worthy of disdain so you can tell me how wrong and ridiculous my arguments are? I have no interest in doing that. You're still going to think what you think.

It's not like I hate Mick or anything. Hell, I even went to his restaurant in Hawaii before the official grand opening and took pictures in front of his kit.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by RockawayBlind

Now you want me to cover the same old ground, detail by detail, to prove the man is worthy of disdain so you can tell me how wrong and ridiculous my arguments are?

I'm just asking for an example of how what he said was an outright lie. The ONLY thing I can think of is the night Lindsey left, which at worst was an overstatement on Mick's part. Even Stevie has said that she thought Lindsey was going to kill her that night. If anything, compared to other biographies, Mick held back.