Los Angeles Staples Center 7/3/2013

WildHearted · #1 07-04-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Welcome. I don't usually watch the Say Goodbye videos, but I look forward to seeing this one.

I don't know how Stevie interprets what he says in this intro, but I don't think Lindsey meant that he wrote Say Goodbye when their drama was over, because they weren't even speaking at the time. He wrote it when their illusions were over. They were disillusioned, but far from at peace with one another.

Michele

Well, the way Lindsey is telling it this tour, Say Goodbye was written in 2003. Which we know is not true. But maybe Stevie believes him.

michelej1 · #2 07-04-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

Well, the way Lindsey is telling it this tour, Say Goodbye was written in 2003. Which we know is not true. But maybe Stevie believes him.

But does she think they were at peace? He's not saying that at all. In a way he is saying they were shattered, but needed that to move forward. What is her disagreement?

Michele

Gypsybecca · #3 07-04-2013, 06:06 PM

Michele, I always look forward to reading your posts- and this was very enjoyable. Thank you. Stevie wagging her finger at Lindsey, the back and forth between them - I live for their silly little moments. I hope this show was filmed. The same way I hope all their shows are filmed.....

michelej1 · #4 07-04-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gypsybecca

] Stevie wagging her finger at Lindsey, the back and forth between them - I live for their silly little moments. I hope this show was filmed. The same way I hope all their shows are filmed.....

Can you imagine the volumes and volumes of material that's out there and we will never get to see, although we would gladly pay for the privilege. If they recorded just the image you see on the overhead monitors every night that would be lovely to have as a dvd keepsake.

I remember seeing a segment on some sound engineer at the Sands Hotel who recorded hundreds and hundreds of Rat Pack performances over the years. They are somewhere rotting away in a vault when they belong to history. The same is true of this Fleetwood Mac goodies that will never be accessible to fans. But I hope we do get at least one official DVD out of this whole thing.

Michele

Deeshere · #5 07-06-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

Well, the way Lindsey is telling it this tour, Say Goodbye was written in 2003. Which we know is not true. But maybe Stevie believes him.

Not sure if this helps or makes it more complicated, but in the 2003 video (Sound Stage Lindsey Buckingham with special guest Stevie Nicks), Lindsey said in his Intro of Say Goodbye (also, Stevie was standing right next to him as he was saying it, so she heard it all)that he wrote the song in 1987 just shortly after "taking leave" of Fleetwood Mac to try and get his head together.

He said it was a song that just needed time to simmer. That it was a song about coming to terms with the fact that there can be little gain, without some loss and little redemption without forgiveness.

Obviously, from what he's saying now, the meaning of the song is different. I think when he is now talking about them being past all the drama, he's not talking about when he wrote the song in 87, he's looking past that time and talking about the 03-04 tour and 08-09 tour to what is going on right now. Likewise with Stevie. When she shakes her head no to what Lindsey says, she's not talking about the past, she also is referring to right now, meaning that her and Lindsey will never be drama free. It's a part of who they are. Lindsey may want all the drama to be gone, but Stevie doesn't think that will ever happen.