LB on his "Mythology" with SN

bombaysaffires · #1 05-13-2013, 08:33 PM

I love how he's honest about the dynamic with them and their "mythology"-- they are indeed very aware of the shipper fantasies and blatantly do play to them. That said, he admits that there obviously is that whole history between them and that gets mixed in at times. I recall on an earlier thread folks wondering how all this Stevie shipper talk goes down with his family and clearly he has explained it to Kristen et al as the role he plays onstage and in the media. Truth somewhere in the middle perhaps. Wonder if he or his "people" have read some of the comments on boards like this....

Obviously he's come to see how sh&tty some of his past behavior to Stevie has been and how that would feed her distrust of him even to this day on some level. I respect him for seeing that so clearly and wanting to somehow make amends for that. It would seem Stevie isn't quite sure how much to trust it and is going to take her time before risking getting burned again... she still has her guard up somewhat with him. Totally understandable.

Thanks for posting Michele.

MikeVielhaber · #2 05-13-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I love how he's honest about the dynamic with them and their "mythology"-- they are indeed very aware of the shipper fantasies and blatantly do play to them. That said, he admits that there obviously is that whole history between them and that gets mixed in at times. I recall on an earlier thread folks wondering how all this Stevie shipper talk goes down with his family and clearly he has explained it to Kristen et al as the role he plays onstage and in the media. Truth somewhere in the middle perhaps. Wonder if he or his "people" have read some of the comments on boards like this....

Obviously he's come to see how sh&tty some of his past behavior to Stevie has been and how that would feed her distrust of him even to this day on some level. I respect him for seeing that so clearly and wanting to somehow make amends for that. It would seem Stevie isn't quite sure how much to trust it and is going to take her time before risking getting burned again... she still has her guard up somewhat with him. Totally understandable.

Thanks for posting Michele.

What does "shipper" mean?

michelej1 · #3 05-13-2013, 11:02 PM

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What does "shipper" mean?

Means people who support the Stevie and Lindsey relationship or any relationship to which the term is applied. Originated with the X-Files. Shippers vs. Noromos (being people who didn't see or didn't want a romantic relationship between Mulder and Scully).

Michele

WildHearted · #4 05-13-2013, 11:02 PM

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What does "shipper" mean?

Different things for different people. But it comes from relationship so in general it means you're a fan of or a supporter of a particular relationship in some capacity.

When we talk about shippers on this site, it's generally regarding Stevie and Lindsey's relationship.

sodascouts · #5 05-14-2013, 01:39 AM

It's nice that he's so open regarding writing about Stevie. Even I had not supposed all three of the new songs on "Extended Play" were about her.

I find the dynamics of their relationship fascinating and I love to discuss it, especially when interpreting lyrics. I also love it when they interact on stage. Their emotional interplay adds even more power to music that's already top notch, and I eat it up. Thus, I guess I am a "shipper" although I never really took to the term.

michelej1 · #6 05-14-2013, 08:27 PM

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It's nice that he's so open regarding writing about Stevie. Even I had not supposed all three of the new songs on "Extended Play" were about her.

True, I didn't think that about It Takes Time either. Due to the connection with Show You How, I thought of Kristen with respect to It Takes Time.

I certainly think Show You How is about Stevie, the shadow singer, but I also thought it was about the woman who helped him move on past the spectre of Stevie. So, I thought It Takes Time was a new song, but that it shared a message with an older one and I wouldn't automatically say it was about Stevie.

But I laughed when he was asked and he said, yeah I would think so and the writer said, 'Ok, well I was wondering, because you have had other relationships . . '

Sometimes, it is hard to lose sight of the fact that these people have had other relationships.

Michele

WildHearted · #7 05-14-2013, 09:00 PM

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But I laughed when he was asked and he said, yeah I would think so and the writer said, 'Ok, well I was wondering, because you have had other relationships . . '

Sometimes, it is hard to lose sight of the fact that these people have had other relationships.

Michele

That made me laugh as well. Cheeky writer.

nicole21290 · #8 05-14-2013, 09:03 PM

Count me in as someone who was VERY pleasantly surprised Lindsey copped to It Takes Time also being about Stevie. I'd thought that was the case but it's nice to have confirmation.

"Maybe I've wasted all this precious time
Trying to prove what is and isn't mine
Wondering to myself if you knew
It was all for you"

windbecame · #9 05-14-2013, 10:13 PM

[QUOTE=sodascouts;1092760]It's nice that he's so open regarding writing about Stevie. Even I had not supposed all three of the new songs on "Extended Play" were about her.

Totally,
"no one understands this man. no one ever will. til his dying day, he was heard to say... he loves her still"

MikeVielhaber · #10 05-14-2013, 10:26 PM

I'm pretty sure Stevie did not say she was knackered.

WildHearted · #11 05-14-2013, 10:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure Stevie did not say she was knackered.

Being American, I actually had to google what that meant. I thought it had some relation to 'knickers' and was very confused.

Ulpian · #12 05-15-2013, 07:07 AM

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I'm pretty sure Stevie did not say she was knackered.

We had a discussion about that at the time! I think the verdict was that some English words may have rubbed off on LB and SN, having spent so much time around three Brits.

mitzo · #13 05-14-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

Different things for different people. But it comes from relationship so in general it means you're a fan of or a supporter of a particular relationship in some capacity.

When we talk about shippers on this site, it's generally regarding Stevie and Lindsey's relationship.

I thought "shipper" was a short form of "worshipper"

Dex · #14 05-14-2013, 06:04 AM

It's always referred to support for specific relationships, as far as I've ever known. It's much more commonly used in book and television fandom. Fleetwood Mac is just so darn special like that.

Go to fanfiction.net comments sections if you want to see it used all the time.

I've actually never much cared about the L/S relationship dynamic. I've sort of taken it as just an interesting piece of trivia, and thought it was too bad that it's always made their collaborations a bit turbulent. The fact that people consider it a "mythology" is fascinating to me.

It would be great if Christine sang more than Don't Stop, but it would undoubtedly be other songs that involved the touring members of the band. Songbird seems unlikely, however lovely it is.