Philadelphia Videos April 6, 2013

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by britt0308

thanks so much for finding and posting vivfix!

totally agree that she needs time to let loose with it..it will come. you have three more dates before i see you in chicago stephanie, so get on it!

and like..karen should be on these fact checking things. not only did they perform sotm in '82, but that was THE iconic performance. also loved her little "cool" remark at the end.

Their brains are so fried that they can't even recall 1982's Mirage Tour, or the truly iconic performance released in the concert video.

It goes to show that fans are far more astute and knowledgeable about all aspects of their career than any of the band members are. We obsess over the details: their history, songs, lyrics, set lists, performances, images. product etc.. That's why, if I ever had the chance to talk to any of them, it would be useless to ask an in-depth question regarding their history. I'd have much more facts to share with them, than they could share with me.

They appear to just seem to move on in time, somewhat indifferent and detached from a large portion of their work. That explains the lack of motivation to re-release Buckingham Nicks on CD, and countless other marketable things they could have offered us during the long spans of time of inactivity.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Their brains are so fried that they can't even recall 1982's Mirage Tour, or the truly iconic performance released in the concert video.

I'm sure Stevie remembers the performance, she just doesn't remember what year it was. She's way into her clothes. I bet if you described what she was WEARING for that video she could tell you every little thing about the SOTM performance from that Mirage tour. It's just years blend together.

Michele

[jcalzaretta]

I am so excited. I am going tomorrow at MSG. Then again Tuesday in DC. Then Saturday in Chicago!,

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jcalzaretta

I am so excited. I am going tomorrow at MSG. Then again Tuesday in DC. Then Saturday in Chicago!,

Lucky! It will be great for you to be able to compare them and tell us if MSG was the most smoking one. I know their adrenalin will be high for New York.

After you see a concert, you have this great thirst to see it again right away. You'll be able to quench that.

Michele

[nailatixela]

When talking about Without You, Stevie did mention their memory isn't very good, and all of this stuff they're saying about the song is just what they can remember. The intro to this song did sound similar to Secret Love. She also said that it was the song Mick heard when decided to bring Lindsey and Stevie on board. That got me very excited - I thought they were about to play Frozen Love. Without You was still a nice treat, though.

Plus, after she said they hadn't done SOTM since 1979, she added at the end that it was "cool." Watch the video for the specifics, but it was cute - she seemed excited to be doing it.

[britt0308]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I'm sure Stevie remembers the performance, she just doesn't remember what year it was. She's way into her clothes. I bet if you described what she was WEARING for that video she could tell you every little thing about the SOTM performance from that Mirage tour. It's just years blend together.

Michele

Good points PenguinHead and Michele..
Not only are years irrelevant to try to bring up..but the clothes have a more memorable place in their (Stevie's) mind. Gotta love em'. That's why we're all here right?!

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by britt0308

Good points PenguinHead and Michele..
Not only are years irrelevant to try to bring up..but the clothes have a more memorable place in their (Stevie's) mind. Gotta love em'. That's why we're all here right?!

Just ask Stevie about the progression of Lindsey's hair and I'm sure her memory will fail no longer.

[NOMAD2]

You guys are awesome with the videos. It's makes the pain of not making it to Philly just a little less painful. Could have had 19th row aisle hours before show.

[NOMAD2]

As far as toning down on SOTM & other songs well ..SOTM Always one of my favorites. Yeah it lacks the energy ( like everything else) of 30 + years ago BUT, They STILL do it BETTER than anyone else .
If any of us lived the life they did a year or two off on facts would be the least of our problems.
What does kill me with some older artist is no one working these tours has the intelligence or guts to remind these famous iconic artist on fact checks. It would be so easy. Paul McCartney is another prime example.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by NOMAD2

As far as toning down on SOTM & other songs well ..SOTM Always one of my favorites. Yeah it lacks the energy ( like everything else) of 30 + years ago BUT, They STILL do it BETTER than anyone else .
If any of us lived the life they did a year or two off on facts would be the least of our problems.
What does kill me with some older artist is no one working these tours has the intelligence or guts to remind these famous iconic artist on fact checks. It would be so easy. Paul McCartney is another prime example.

I think people need to take a big fat chill pill about these dates. Does anyone here remember their daily schedules from 1982? Remember, these people do not obsess about their past tours like the rest of us do. It was a job for them. Also, the Mirage tour was only, like, a month in duration. Given all of the tours and ingested substances from the past 30 years, it doesn't surprise me in the least that they have their dates screwed up.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I think people need to take a big fat chill pill about these dates. Does anyone here remember their daily schedules from 1982? Remember, these people do not obsess about their past tours like the rest of us do. It was a job for them. Also, the Mirage tour was only, like, a month in duration. Given all of the tours and ingested substances from the past 30 years, it doesn't surprise me in the least that they have their dates screwed up.

I agree that they are busy living their lives and not memorizing dates. And I agree this is a tempest in a teapot-- not a big, earth-shattering data point.

That said, I think the issue is more that once Stevie put it out there that they hadn't done the song since the late 70s, it's clear that she became aware that other people (fans, whoever) believe they did the song into 80s. So when Stevie comes out onstage after that and says something like "we believe (gesturing to the whole band) that we last did this song in the late 70s" it seems at least to indicate that she's aware that other people don't agree with that assessment. And how would she be aware of that? To be aware that maybe *other* people don't agree it was the late 70s indicates that *someone* on her team follows fan discussions somewhere (this board or elsewhere) and has made her aware of what the chatter is among her fans, and that people are saying no, it was done in the 80s also. (she seemed aware at one point not long ago, for instance, that fans were on here talking about her red cape, and said onstage at one point that she knew about those discussions). *That* would be the point you would think someone would go hmmm, you think it's this, the fans are all abuzz that it's something else, you know what, let's check it out to see. I wouldn't expect Stevie to be spot-on with her dates prior to that.

Again, none of this is earth-shattering, and in her life it's a "so what" moment.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Their brains are so fried that they can't even recall 1982's Mirage Tour, or the truly iconic performance released in the concert video.

It goes to show that fans are far more astute and knowledgeable about all aspects of their career than any of the band members are. We obsess over the details: their history, songs, lyrics, set lists, performances, images. product etc.. That's why, if I ever had the chance to talk to any of them, it would be useless to ask an in-depth question regarding their history. I'd have much more facts to share with them, than they could share with me.

Indeed. "We think we haven't done this since the late 70s" as she gestures to the other band members.

I guess she's aware that other people think otherwise. Easy enough to check, no??

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Indeed. "We think we haven't done this since the late 70s" as she gestures to the other band members.

I guess she's aware that other people think otherwise. Easy enough to check, no??

For real. She said they "found" Without You on YouTube. So simple to type in SOTM and discover the beloved Mirage version....

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

For real. She said they "found" Without You on YouTube. So simple to type in SOTM and discover the beloved Mirage version....

I don't think that they feel it's so important that they get the exact year down. They know it's been a long time and she ballparked "end of 70's". I don't see the big deal here, guys.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

I don't think that they feel it's so important that they get the exact year down. They know it's been a long time and she ballparked "end of 70's". I don't see the big deal here, guys.

Not a big deal but we tend to define things in tour eras... and the Mirage version is THE version fans associate with this song. How she doesn't realize that is really surprising. I would never expect Stevie herself to know the correct date of just about anything, but like bombaysaffires pointed out this would be so simple to verify & just say "we last did this in 1982" ... of course, for the rest of the set she could say and "we've been doing all these other songs since the late '70's"...

Just a little joke there, I'm not complaining about the set!