Columbus Opening Night Thread - Audio, Video, Pics and More

[AbbiJoy78]

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

[KenshiMaster16]

I think for the next tour (if there is one) they should keep this idea of "celebrating an album" in 3 to 4 songs and do a section for Mirage....It's obvious they'd cram Gypsy and Eyes in there but what other two would we get? That's Alright? Oh Diane? Straight Back?

[drag00n]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

I think for the next tour (if there is one) they should keep this idea of "celebrating an album" in 3 to 4 songs and do a section for Mirage....It's obvious they'd cram Gypsy and Eyes in there but what other two would we get? That's Alright? Oh Diane? Straight Back?

Straight Back!!!!!! & That's Alright!!!

[drag00n]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

Did Mick do that awful "solo" of his in the middle that usually kills it and makes it drag on?

[jenniferuk]

Originally Posted by drag00n

Did Mick do that awful "solo" of his in the middle that usually kills it and makes it drag on?

Solo yes, but at the drums not with the vest.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

Lindsey would do a version of that "on the ground" remix, with Brett controlling the dubbed vocals on his solo tour. I liked it when Lindsey stood up at that point from his dark corner of the stage and started mouthing the words to the sound of his own voice singing.

Michele

[AbbiJoy78]

I saw a few of those solo tours, but don't recall him getting up and mouthing those words...i woulda died! Something about that part gets me SO AMPED UP!! But the SYW remix had some weird thing in it that sounded like Lindsey's voice, saying "world turning" over and over, or was that not him? Anyway what kind did you guys get in Colomus!!??

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Hmmm. Sounds like he's heard TISL.

Michele

Intense.

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Seriously. We all have songs we would like them to add, but they can only do so many deep tracks without alienating most of the audience who would much rather hear Landslide than some obscure track from TITTN. As long as they put in a few deep tracks, I'm happy. Let's be fair, folks, and not get all outraged because the entire set wasn't composed of Buckingham Nicks songs and B-sides. I mean we got freaking WITHOUT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A freaking Buckingham Nicks demo!!!!!!!!!!! How can you say they are not being bold when they're doing a song like that?!

And I, for one, would be extremely disappointed if I didn't hear the awesomeness that is "I'm So Afraid."

Amen!

Originally Posted by vivfox

This Chiff totally disagrees with you. Lindsey sounds wonderful on Without You and his smooth, clear vocal drowns hers out completely. I know her voice sounds great live nowadays but on this song she sings it flat and dull. I bet it is gonna get dropped.

Hush your mouth, honey!!!!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

I saw a few of those solo tours, but don't recall him getting up and mouthing those words...i woulda died! Something about that part gets me SO AMPED UP!! But the SYW remix had some weird thing in it that sounded like Lindsey's voice, saying "world turning" over and over, or was that not him? Anyway what kind did you guys get in Colomus!!??

You and everyone else needs to check out the youtube videos thread on here. Most of the songs have been posted.

gypsy-sara gypsy-sara
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World Turning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZj5zwWMlY0

[Matt Lucas]

Hello all---

I just wanted to say thanks to those of you who recorded songs at last night's show and shared them online.

I think I have the BN demos, but I honestly can't say that I've ever heard "Without You," and if I did, I'm not sure that I really paid attention.

Having said that, if I didn't already know it's from the BN days, I would have thought it so. It clearly has that feel to it, and that's a good thing. I love the vocal interplay between Stevie and Lindsey, and I really hope that they release the song eventually.

"Sad Angel" is everything I hoped it would be. Actually, the intro was a little weak...but WOW...that chorus! With all due respect to Lindsey's fine solo work...he always sounds better with the Mac behind him.

So, was "Big Love" the usual acoustic version? For a change, I'd love to hear them do the album arrangement.

As for the rest of the set list, it looks okay to me. Except for "Stand Back." I have a problem with them doing solo tracks during band shows. They have enough band hits and great album tracks without having to include solo songs.

matt

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

I saw a few of those solo tours, but don't recall him getting up and mouthing those words...i woulda died!

Oh, I mean that's what he did last night. He was sitting down on the floor during most of Mick's part and he stood up near the end and the recording was going "on the ground, on the ground, on the ground" and he was mouthing the words.

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

Something about that part gets me SO AMPED UP!! But the SYW remix had some weird thing in it that sounded like Lindsey's voice, saying "world turning" over and over, or was that not him?

Yes, that was Lindsey's voice saying "world turning."

Michele

[KarmaContestant]

I was not at the show.

However, I just read all 28 pages of this thread, every post, and I have a couple observations to share.

This happens with every tour - there are people who are disappointed, and I believe this is rightfully so. We've been fans for a *long* time. We know how vast the Fleetwood Mac catalog is, and we know all too well how little of this material ever sees the stage. Maybe 1 fifth? 1 sixth? Even less? We've heard the staples too many times - and maybe it's our own fault for seeing too many shows over the years.

On the other side, you have the fans who chastise anyone who dares to express a dissenting point of view. They're either complete and total fanbois who believe the Mac can do no wrong, or more often, newer fans who have not seen the band before and can't imagine why anyone would not want to hear *insert any song here* again for the 40th time. They often love every song unconditionally, and typically like to remind all of us how grateful we should be that Fleetwood Mac is touring at all. And they're right - we should be grateful.For these fans, I'm excited for you to be able to see Fleetwood Mac, and I hope the show is every bit as wonderful for you as you hoped it would be.

However, for many of us, there is a certain level of monotony that just cannot be justified anymore. It's been going on for a while, and the blame rests squarely on the band members. This lineup has had one album of new material in 26 years. ONE!!! Then they go on tour, and well of course, they want to play the hits. I don't blame them - I would, too - but when your last hit was almost 30 years ago, it's hard to find material to add to your setlist that isn't going to be repetitive. Then they tour again. And again. And it's the same, sad, old, done-to-death setlist with a little something to make it seem fresh. Well, the truth is that no amount of salt or pepper will liven up a bland, boring meal. If Fleetwood Mac wants hits, if they want fans to love new material, they need to earn that. I'm not even going to any of the shows on this tour. There's just nothing new enough to draw me there. One new song, one new but actually old song and a couple songs they've done before but not last time just isn't worth paying for Stevie's dogs to fly around on luxury jets. It's not bold. It's not fresh. It's not risky. It's tired, and done. They talk about how they want to be fresh and relevant - it's all so bigus. They want to be *comfortable*. Well, comfortable is boring. Comfortable is not enough for me, when I can put in a DVD and see almost the same show, with better vocals, and with Christine there, too.

I understand they're old. So what? Being old is no excuse for playing virtually the same songs four tours in a row. If they can play at all, they could play something *different*. They are *so* stuck on themselves and their insecurities. How will fans hear new songs if you don't play them or release new material? You can never have new hits in your setlist if you don't give the songs a chance to become fan favorites. So what if people pee or get a beer during a new song - that's what fans have done for decades at concerts across the globe! After almost five decades of touring you'd think they would have figured that out. As much as we should be lucky they are touring, THEY should feel lucky that people still want to pay to see them perform the same songs again and again. I'm betting that both Without You and Sad Angel will be dropped within 5 shows. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't think it's fair to call out another fan for being "negative". It's not negativity - it's actually honesty. Honesty about being disappointed in a band that can't seem to get past it's glory days of 40 years ago, despite talking the talk (but not ever really walking the walk).

I saw this today on Facebook, posted by Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode. Stevie could learn something from this. She clearly got it with In Your Dreams, but she could maybe carry this sentiment into the studio with Lindsey.

"We all like to have hits, it's nice to have hits, of course, but after making 13 records together, it's not what drives you. What drives you is to make a great record."
This is something Stevie, Lindsey and crew have forgotten how to do together. I would happily spend hundreds of dollars to see them go out and play a new album mixed in with a few of those old standards. But that won't happen, and to me, it feels as if Fleetwood Mac is only revived periodically to pay for the high cost of retirement these days.

[drag00n]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

, and to me, it feels as if Fleetwood Mac is only revived periodically to pay for the high cost of retirement these days.

Let's be honest here. Stevie seemed perfectly happy doing her own thing.. Mick pushes touring every time he is about to go bankrupt again!!.

[NOMAD2]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

I was not at the show.

However, I just read all 28 pages of this thread, every post, and I have a couple observations to share.

This happens with every tour - there are people who are disappointed, and I believe this is rightfully so. We've been fans for a *long* time. We know how vast the Fleetwood Mac catalog is, and we know all too well how little of this material ever sees the stage. Maybe 1 fifth? 1 sixth? Even less? We've heard the staples too many times - and maybe it's our own fault for seeing too many shows over the years.

On the other side, you have the fans who chastise anyone who dares to express a dissenting point of view. They're either complete and total fanbois who believe the Mac can do no wrong, or more often, newer fans who have not seen the band before and can't imagine why anyone would not want to hear *insert any song here* again for the 40th time. They often love every song unconditionally, and typically like to remind all of us how grateful we should be that Fleetwood Mac is touring at all. And they're right - we should be grateful.For these fans, I'm excited for you to be able to see Fleetwood Mac, and I hope the show is every bit as wonderful for you as you hoped it would be.

However, for many of us, there is a certain level of monotony that just cannot be justified anymore. It's been going on for a while, and the blame rests squarely on the band members. This lineup has had one album of new material in 26 years. ONE!!! Then they go on tour, and well of course, they want to play the hits. I don't blame them - I would, too - but when your last hit was almost 30 years ago, it's hard to find material to add to your setlist that isn't going to be repetitive. Then they tour again. And again. And it's the same, sad, old, done-to-death setlist with a little something to make it seem fresh. Well, the truth is that no amount of salt or pepper will liven up a bland, boring meal. If Fleetwood Mac wants hits, if they want fans to love new material, they need to earn that. I'm not even going to any of the shows on this tour. There's just nothing new enough to draw me there. One new song, one new but actually old song and a couple songs they've done before but not last time just isn't worth paying for Stevie's dogs to fly around on luxury jets. It's not bold. It's not fresh. It's not risky. It's tired, and done. They talk about how they want to be fresh and relevant - it's all so bigus. They want to be *comfortable*. Well, comfortable is boring. Comfortable is not enough for me, when I can put in a DVD and see almost the same show, with better vocals, and with Christine there, too.

I understand they're old. So what? Being old is no excuse for playing virtually the same songs four tours in a row. If they can play at all, they could play something *different*. They are *so* stuck on themselves and their insecurities. How will fans hear new songs if you don't play them or release new material? You can never have new hits in your setlist if you don't give the songs a chance to become fan favorites. So what if people pee or get a beer during a new song - that's what fans have done for decades at concerts across the globe! After almost five decades of touring you'd think they would have figured that out. As much as we should be lucky they are touring, THEY should feel lucky that people still want to pay to see them perform the same songs again and again. I'm betting that both Without You and Sad Angel will be dropped within 5 shows. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't think it's fair to call out another fan for being "negative". It's not negativity - it's actually honesty. Honesty about being disappointed in a band that can't seem to get past it's glory days of 40 years ago, despite talking the talk (but not ever really walking the walk).

I saw this today on Facebook, posted by Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode. Stevie could learn something from this. She clearly got it with In Your Dreams, but she could maybe carry this sentiment into the studio with Lindsey.

"We all like to have hits, it's nice to have hits, of course, but after making 13 records together, it's not what drives you. What drives you is to make a great record."
This is something Stevie, Lindsey and crew have forgotten how to do together. I would happily spend hundreds of dollars to see them go out and play a new album mixed in with a few of those old standards. But that won't happen, and to me, it feels as if Fleetwood Mac is only revived periodically to pay for the high cost of retirement these days.

GEE..if I hadn't looked at this author I'd swear I wrote it.

[reebokandlace]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

....However, for many of us, there is a certain level of monotony that just cannot be justified anymore. It's been going on for a while, and the blame rests squarely on the band members. ......... This is something Stevie, Lindsey and crew have forgotten how to do together. I would happily spend hundreds of dollars to see them go out and play a new album mixed in with a few of those old standards. But that won't happen, and to me, it feels as if Fleetwood Mac is only revived periodically to pay for the high cost of retirement these days.

Well stated Karma! My sentiments exactly.