Columbus Opening Night Thread - Audio, Video, Pics and More

[MikeVielhaber]

Everyone keeps saying "Sad Angel" is different than what they were expected. Considering the information and descriptions they've given in recent interviews about the song it's right about exactly what I expected.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Everyone keeps saying "Sad Angel" is different than what they were expected. Considering the information and descriptions they've given in recent interviews about the song it's right about exactly what I expected.

Stevie only sang a line of it in one of the interviews, but what she sang had nothing of the tempo we hear in the actual song. I thought it would be a slow song. I thought it might even be about her mother's death. And then when she sang that line, it sounded rather somber in keeping with the assumptions I'd been forming.

As I learned with Everybody Loves You, you can't tell anything by a song snippet, especially since the snippet Stevie gave us was acapella. But, to me, nothing I heard of the song or about it presaged an upbeat number was coming.

I just wish it had been released before the concert so we would know the words and they could have seen the audience singing along.

Michele

[whitewingdove]

Wow! Looks and sounds like it was a good show! Wish I coulda been there! Looking forward to 10 days from now!

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie only sang a line of it in one of the interviews, but what she sang had nothing of the tempo we hear in the actual song. I thought it would be a slow song. I thought it might even be about her mother's death. And then when she sang that line, it sounded rather somber in keeping with the assumptions I'd been forming.

As I learned with Everybody Loves You, you can't tell anything by a song snippet, especially since the snippet Stevie gave us was acapella. But, to me, nothing I heard of the song or about it presaged an upbeat number was coming.

I just wish it had been released before the concert so we would know the words and they could have seen the audience singing along.

Michele

yea, stevie really mislead us on that one. Or maybe that was her plan. lower expectations then BAM

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie only sang a line of it in one of the interviews, but what she sang had nothing of the tempo we hear in the actual song. I thought it would be a slow song. I thought it might even be about her mother's death. And then when she sang that line, it sounded rather somber in keeping with the assumptions I'd been forming.

As I learned with Everybody Loves You, you can't tell anything by a song snippet, especially since the snippet Stevie gave us was acapella. But, to me, nothing I heard of the song or about it presaged an upbeat number was coming.

I just wish it had been released before the concert so we would know the words and they could have seen the audience singing along.

Michele

I guess I missed that interview and I don't remember exactly what was said in the interviews I did read, but I was expecting an upbeat number. I'd have to go look through the interviews to understand why I came to that conclusion. The other song "Miss Fantasy" too. I was under the impression that both were uptempo.

And I agree. They definitely should've released the song before the tour started.

[AbbiJoy78]

What time did they actually come onstage to begin? Sorry if I missed it! I'm trying to keep up and somehow still work today LOL!

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

What time did they actually come onstage to begin? Sorry if I missed it! I'm trying to keep up and somehow still work today LOL!

Second Hand News

[AbbiJoy78]

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

[KenshiMaster16]

I think for the next tour (if there is one) they should keep this idea of "celebrating an album" in 3 to 4 songs and do a section for Mirage....It's obvious they'd cram Gypsy and Eyes in there but what other two would we get? That's Alright? Oh Diane? Straight Back?

[drag00n]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

Did Mick do that awful "solo" of his in the middle that usually kills it and makes it drag on?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

Errr..thanks? No really, was it like 20 after 8?

Also, does anyone else out there love World Turning (that crazy remix with those Lindsey-esque quirks?) I LOVE that! Was this the WT from the SYW tour...or better yet from Lindsey's solo tours in 07-08?

Lindsey would do a version of that "on the ground" remix, with Brett controlling the dubbed vocals on his solo tour. I liked it when Lindsey stood up at that point from his dark corner of the stage and started mouthing the words to the sound of his own voice singing.

Michele

[KarmaContestant]

I was not at the show.

However, I just read all 28 pages of this thread, every post, and I have a couple observations to share.

This happens with every tour - there are people who are disappointed, and I believe this is rightfully so. We've been fans for a *long* time. We know how vast the Fleetwood Mac catalog is, and we know all too well how little of this material ever sees the stage. Maybe 1 fifth? 1 sixth? Even less? We've heard the staples too many times - and maybe it's our own fault for seeing too many shows over the years.

On the other side, you have the fans who chastise anyone who dares to express a dissenting point of view. They're either complete and total fanbois who believe the Mac can do no wrong, or more often, newer fans who have not seen the band before and can't imagine why anyone would not want to hear *insert any song here* again for the 40th time. They often love every song unconditionally, and typically like to remind all of us how grateful we should be that Fleetwood Mac is touring at all. And they're right - we should be grateful.For these fans, I'm excited for you to be able to see Fleetwood Mac, and I hope the show is every bit as wonderful for you as you hoped it would be.

However, for many of us, there is a certain level of monotony that just cannot be justified anymore. It's been going on for a while, and the blame rests squarely on the band members. This lineup has had one album of new material in 26 years. ONE!!! Then they go on tour, and well of course, they want to play the hits. I don't blame them - I would, too - but when your last hit was almost 30 years ago, it's hard to find material to add to your setlist that isn't going to be repetitive. Then they tour again. And again. And it's the same, sad, old, done-to-death setlist with a little something to make it seem fresh. Well, the truth is that no amount of salt or pepper will liven up a bland, boring meal. If Fleetwood Mac wants hits, if they want fans to love new material, they need to earn that. I'm not even going to any of the shows on this tour. There's just nothing new enough to draw me there. One new song, one new but actually old song and a couple songs they've done before but not last time just isn't worth paying for Stevie's dogs to fly around on luxury jets. It's not bold. It's not fresh. It's not risky. It's tired, and done. They talk about how they want to be fresh and relevant - it's all so bigus. They want to be *comfortable*. Well, comfortable is boring. Comfortable is not enough for me, when I can put in a DVD and see almost the same show, with better vocals, and with Christine there, too.

I understand they're old. So what? Being old is no excuse for playing virtually the same songs four tours in a row. If they can play at all, they could play something *different*. They are *so* stuck on themselves and their insecurities. How will fans hear new songs if you don't play them or release new material? You can never have new hits in your setlist if you don't give the songs a chance to become fan favorites. So what if people pee or get a beer during a new song - that's what fans have done for decades at concerts across the globe! After almost five decades of touring you'd think they would have figured that out. As much as we should be lucky they are touring, THEY should feel lucky that people still want to pay to see them perform the same songs again and again. I'm betting that both Without You and Sad Angel will be dropped within 5 shows. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't think it's fair to call out another fan for being "negative". It's not negativity - it's actually honesty. Honesty about being disappointed in a band that can't seem to get past it's glory days of 40 years ago, despite talking the talk (but not ever really walking the walk).

I saw this today on Facebook, posted by Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode. Stevie could learn something from this. She clearly got it with In Your Dreams, but she could maybe carry this sentiment into the studio with Lindsey.

"We all like to have hits, it's nice to have hits, of course, but after making 13 records together, it's not what drives you. What drives you is to make a great record."
This is something Stevie, Lindsey and crew have forgotten how to do together. I would happily spend hundreds of dollars to see them go out and play a new album mixed in with a few of those old standards. But that won't happen, and to me, it feels as if Fleetwood Mac is only revived periodically to pay for the high cost of retirement these days.

[jenniferuk]

Originally Posted by AbbiJoy78

What time did they actually come onstage to begin? Sorry if I missed it! I'm trying to keep up and somehow still work today LOL!

I think it was 8:20, maybe a tad earlier. I can only recall that it was about what I expected. Lights out, S&L entered together, Mick made an entrance sticks in hand and arms overhead, and Lindsey and John took a few seconds to tune and then....wow!

[Eugene]

Originally Posted by jenniferuk

I think it was 8:20, maybe a tad earlier. I can only recall that it was about what I expected. Lights out, S&L entered together, Mick made an entrance sticks in hand and arms overhead, and Lindsey and John took a few seconds to tune and then....wow!

Crickets before lights out?

[buckinghamnicks]

Start time 8:17pm, finish 10:29pm.