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Old 04-04-2013, 09:00 PM
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For Fleetwood Mac, maybe. For any other band that's even attempting relevance, not so much.
Well that's what we're talking about, Fleetwood Mac...
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:15 PM
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Well that's what we're talking about, Fleetwood Mac...
In what world could SOTM and NTF possibly be considered risks? SOTM was done at the tail end of the "Rumours" tour throughout the "Mirage" tour. NTF was done on the "Tusk", "Mirage", AND "The Dance" tours, and was even on "Fleetwood Mac Live". The only risk is that those songs will completely suck, and people won't like them anymore because they were so bad.

That leaves the two unreleased songs, one of which many fans already know (and we know they know). Ooh, ONE new song. Color me underwhelmed. One new song is a far cry from relevance.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:22 PM
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In what world could SOTM and NTF possibly be considered risks? SOTM was done at the tail end of the "Rumours" tour throughout the "Mirage" tour. NTF was done on the "Tusk", "Mirage", AND "The Dance" tours, and was even on "Fleetwood Mac Live". The only risk is that those songs will completely suck, and people won't like them anymore because they were so bad.

That leaves the two unreleased songs, one of which many fans already know (and we know they know). Ooh, ONE new song. Color me underwhelmed. One new song is a far cry from relevance.
In a world that is less self-absorbed than just one person's desires. A song not done in 30 + years that most people have never seen live and that could damage someone's voice the way they sang it the last time and yet venture to try it now is indeed a risk. And whatever new way they perform the song now may suck to you but could very well be awesome to me. You may say you are underwhelmed and I may say I'm excited but you can not say it is not a risk to do that song. Adding the other new ones (Without You is also new as far as a live song) only sweetens the pot. Sorry you are underwhelmed but relevance is by opinion

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:28 PM
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I am just happy that they are back together again, touring, singing my personal favorite song (SOTM) that I never thought I would ever get a chance to see live. And that they are recording new music. If I don't get it, then ok, they didn't want me to have it...

But right now, I couldn't be more excited to see my favorite band live from the front row late next month.

I just hope that we can all be happy that they haven't closed the door on FM and all called it quits.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:34 PM
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In a world that is less self-absorbed than just one person's desires.


Oh gee...I better stop posting to message board dedicated to something I like. Wouldn't want my preferences to get in the way...

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A song not done in 30 + years that most people have never seen live and that could damage someone's voice they way they sang it the last time and yet venture to try it now is indeed a risk.
EXACTLY why it's not a risk. To fans like you, the mere fact that they'll do it is amazing in and of itself. For fans like me, even though I've only seen it live on music videos, we realize that it's only going to suck by comparison. Look at what's happened to "Rhiannon" over the years. Do you REALLY think you're not going to get that with SOTM? Hell, I'd prefer "Welcome To The Room...Sara" because it's never been done live, it's never been considered a hit, she can still hit those notes, and it wouldn't tarnish an otherwise impeccable image I have of a song.

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You may say you are underwhelmed and I may say I'm excited but you can not say it is not a risk to do that song.
Yes I can. It's been done, and it's been done better. SOTM is perhaps the safest Stevie song on "Tusk". Risky, for me, would be "I Don't Want To Know" or anything after "Tusk" other than "Gypsy" or even "Seven Wonders". "Thrown Down" would even be a bigger risk.

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Adding the other new ones (Without You is also new as far as a live song) only sweetens the pot. Sorry you are underwhelmed but I suspect you are under other things as well lol
Yeah, like your mom.

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EXACTLY why it's not a risk. To fans like you, the mere fact that they'll do it is amazing in and of itself. For fans like me, even though I've only seen it live on music videos, we realize that it's only going to suck by comparison. Look at what's happened to "Rhiannon" over the years. Do you REALLY think you're not going to get that with SOTM? Hell, I'd prefer "Welcome To The Room...Sara" because it's never been done live, it's never been considered a hit, she can still hit those notes, and it wouldn't tarnish an otherwise impeccable image I have of a song.
One could follow that logic, though, and say that "Sisters of the Moon" is risky because it's nearly impossible to top the "preserved in amber" perfection of performances filmed 30 years ago.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:42 PM
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Oh gee...I better stop posting to message board dedicated to something I like. Wouldn't want my preferences to get in the way...


EXACTLY why it's not a risk. To fans like you, the mere fact that they'll do it is amazing in and of itself. For fans like me, even though I've only seen it live on music videos, we realize that it's only going to suck by comparison. Look at what's happened to "Rhiannon" over the years. Do you REALLY think you're not going to get that with SOTM? Hell, I'd prefer "Welcome To The Room...Sara" because it's never been done live, it's never been considered a hit, she can still hit those notes, and it wouldn't tarnish an otherwise impeccable image I have of a song.


Yes I can. It's been done, and it's been done better. SOTM is perhaps the safest Stevie song on "Tusk". Risky, for me, would be "I Don't Want To Know" or anything after "Tusk" other than "Gypsy" or even "Seven Wonders". "Thrown Down" would even be a bigger risk.


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Not at all - I can appreciate other musical nuances and apparently have a much more varied musical landscape to experience joy from. Rhiannon and SOTM are not a comparison to me because I have NEVER seen or experienced it live and I don't care if I've seen it on youtube because sonically it's different live.

I agree some of those may be bigger risks but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying SOTM, Without You, Sad Angel, Say Goodbye, and Not That Funny are songs not often or seldom done and are "risks" compared to having more hits per se.

She always said you had no technique.

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:57 PM
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Not at all - I can appreciate other musical nuances and apparently have a much more varied musical landscape to experience joy from.
Varied. Note to self: songs that they've done before now qualifies as varied. Well f**k me. I'll remember that the next time I see a real artist who's willing to take a risk and do half of their new album live in concert.

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:59 PM
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Varied. Note to self: songs that they've done before now qualifies as varied. Well f**k me. I'll remember that the next time I see a real artist who's willing to take a risk and do half of their new album live in concert.





That's only because I refuse to let the cat participate.
Note to self: songs that they've done before now qualifies as varied. Well f**k me. I'll remember that the next time I see a real artist who's willing to take a risk and do half of their new album live in concert.

Please do remember that - thanks!

That's only because I refuse to let the cat participate. Nope - saw the video and she's totally right.
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Hell, I'd prefer "Welcome To The Room...Sara" because it's never been done live, it's never been considered a hit, she can still hit those notes, and it wouldn't tarnish an otherwise impeccable image I have of a song.
Yeah, it would be hard to tarnish a song that is already painful to listen to in its original recorded version. Self-indulgent rambling that borders on incoherence.

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Old 04-05-2013, 11:39 AM
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Yeah, it would be hard to tarnish a song that is already painful to listen to in its original recorded version. Self-indulgent rambling that borders on incoherence.

I know, I know, a matter of opinion.
No way, that is a truthfull analysis.
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