Question about the live albums

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Lindsfan

He doesn't need it. He likes it, for the reason Elle mentioned. That's not a surprise. He likes his songs, even live, to sound just the way he likes them to sound. I, for one, am happy with the results. Stephanie sounded awesome, and the electric stuff with the backing tracks were incredible. I was wondering how they'd sound, when I heard about him doing that, but I liked the effect. Obviously people have different tastes, so it's not for everyone, but Lindsey's mentioned that too. That his music isn't for the masses, but rather for those who get it. I'm glad I get it

Those are two different things, though. I like his music and consider him one of the great guitarists AND I want a completely live show. I'd gladly pay to see him if he didn't use pre-recorded backing tracks or have a bunch of psychobabble for stage bantar. It kind of kills me that he's taking this route for his live shows.

[redtulip]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Those are two different things, though. I like his music and consider him one of the great guitarists AND I want a completely live show. I'd gladly pay to see him if he didn't use pre-recorded backing tracks or have a bunch of psychobabble for stage bantar. It kind of kills me that he's taking this route for his live shows.

Only 4 songs out of 13 had a backing track. And I think the only one with vocals was GYOW. You didn't even see one show so I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion it was so awful.

[elle]

Originally Posted by redtulip

Only 4 songs out of 13 had a backing track. And I think the only one with vocals was GYOW. You didn't even see one show so I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion it was so awful.

lol. we posted basically the same thing at the same time, except you were nice and concise while i was rambling in circles.

and yeah, only GYOW has vocals on it. def least favorite of OMS.

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Those are two different things, though. I like his music and consider him one of the great guitarists AND I want a completely live show. I'd gladly pay to see him if he didn't use pre-recorded backing tracks or have a bunch of psychobabble for stage bantar. It kind of kills me that he's taking this route for his live shows.

i'll say to you what i said to everybody that kept giving the same spiel you are now before they actually experienced OMS - those are assumptions, and unless you experienced in person either one of the OMS shows or listened to OMS recording, i can't take your opinion on this as relevant. i have heard too many people saying very similar things as you are saying now and doing 180 when they actually saw the show.

now when people have heard the show and tell me they didn't like it, i respect their opinion. not everyone will like it - of course.

i don't understand how someone can say "i consider him one of the greatest guitarists" and not willing to hear live what he came up with before offering half-informed opinions and criticisms. but you are not the only one.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Those are two different things, though. I like his music and consider him one of the great guitarists AND I want a completely live show. I'd gladly pay to see him if he didn't use pre-recorded backing tracks or have a bunch of psychobabble for stage bantar. It kind of kills me that he's taking this route for his live shows.

This One Man Show is my least favorite tour of his. Since I wouldn't mind a purely acoustic show myself your suggestion is one I'd endorse, but as far as the psychobabble goes, all told he probably spends 5 minutes top on his song introductions combined, so I don't know why that would keep you away from a concert. It's not like the talk goes on forever, nor does he comment prior to each song. Just 3 or so.

A meditation on contemplation on anticipation on fascination . . . it's kind of like a flu shot: it may hurt a little, but it's over fast.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

This One Man Show is my least favorite tour of his. Since I wouldn't mind a purely acoustic show myself your suggestion is one I'd endorse, but as far as the psychobabble goes, all told he probably spends 5 minutes top on his song introductions combined, so I don't know why that would keep you away from a concert. It's not like the talk goes on forever, nor does he comment prior to each song. Just 3 or so.

A meditation on contemplation on anticipation on fascination . . . it's kind of like a flu shot: it may hurt a little, but it's over fast.

Michele

yup he barely talked during OMS. and he made an effort to change it a bit from time to time. plus if you don't want him to say the same pre-rehearsed thing, you could influence what he says - the intimate setting allows you to say stuff that he will hear and respond to you or get into a teasing back-an-forth.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

yup he barely talked during OMS. and he made an effort to change it a bit from time to time. plus if you don't want him to say the same pre-rehearsed thing, you could influence what he says - the intimate setting allows you to say stuff that he will hear and respond to you or get into a teasing back-an-forth.

Lindsey has excellent hearing when he wants. It's kind of funny how he'll comment on things even several rows back, if he feels like it.

Michele

[Lindsfan]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Those are two different things, though. I like his music and consider him one of the great guitarists AND I want a completely live show. I'd gladly pay to see him if he didn't use pre-recorded backing tracks or have a bunch of psychobabble for stage bantar. It kind of kills me that he's taking this route for his live shows.

From what you're saying, I think you would have liked his show. To see him so close, while he's playing is something special. Not Too Late, Bleed to Love Her, Big Love (duh), NGBA, Go Insane, Trouble. These were truly jaw-dropping. Cast Away Dreams was beautiful. ISA and Come (both with backing tracks) brought down the house at every performance I saw. Lindsey is Lindsey. He's never going to walk out with just one guitar and play in the stripped down fashion you're speaking of. I'd enjoy that as well, but it's never gonna happen. It's not who he is But who he is is awful darn good, and I hope you take the opportunity next time he tours solo, regardless of how he chooses to present his songs.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Lindsfan

He's never going to walk out with just one guitar and play in the stripped down fashion you're speaking of. I'd enjoy that as well, but it's never gonna happen. It's not who he is

Which is why I'm so high on Richard Thompson right now. He DOES that, and his stage banter can be hilarious.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Which is why I'm so high on Richard Thompson right now. He DOES that, and his stage banter can be hilarious.

Is the stage banter always different or are you familiar with it now?

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Is the stage banter always different or are you familiar with it now?

I've only recently gotten into RT's music, but there's enough on YouTube and enough live recordings out there to know that he's not babbling on all the time about how something was a healing moment for him. I mean, his devastatingly sarcastic rendition of "Oops, I Did It Again" from his "1000 Years Of Popular Music" album already puts him ahead of the curve, as does "I Agree With Pat Metheny" where he basically sh*ts all over Kenny G. I'm hoping to see him next month.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I mean, his devastatingly sarcastic rendition of "Oops, I Did It Again" from his "1000 Years Of Popular Music" album already puts him ahead of the curve, as does "I Agree With Pat Metheny" where he basically sh*ts all over Kenny G. I'm hoping to see him next month.

This sounds similar to what people in the This is 40 audience at the Roxy were telling me about Ryan Adams and what his full show is like. I guess it's as much a sardonic look at pop culture, mixed with his social commentary as it is about the music.

Of course, FM isn't like that.

Michele

[elle]

just looked up Richard Thompson... he sounds very interesting actually, much better than what you described SteveMacD. i'll check him out if he comes around these parts

and i don't really see how he and LB are mutually exclusive. i'd think it would be just the opposite for most people who are at least somewhat familiar with one or the other.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

just looked up Richard Thompson... he sounds very interesting actually, much better than what you described SteveMacD. i'll check him out if he comes around these parts

What can I say. I suck at some things. Plus, I've never actually gotten to see him live, yet. I usually give better descriptions of things I've experienced.

Actually, he and his ex have a song that screams to be covered by Fleetwood Mac called For Shame Of Doing Wrong.

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Which is why I'm so high on Richard Thompson right now. He DOES that, and his stage banter can be hilarious.

to each their own.

i'm more into rocking and intense myself. and OMS provided that in spades.

i used to go to music school, play piano and flute, and as a part of that we had to go to a lot of classical music concerts. it was not for me, i was bored at many of those. completely acoustic shows kinda remind me of that time. i can appreciate how great someone's playing, but it just doesn't grab me and hold my attention for the whole duration.

also, i like to think i can influence things and not just have them completely handed to me, even in the entertainment... as several of us said before, it is fun to banter with Lindsey and listen to his stage back-and-forth with others in the audience. a lot of it ends up being hilarious and interactive. but again, that's just me.