she said - he said why Lindsey Left

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by chiliD

I can believe that being around 3 Brits (and more if you count family & crew), that by '87, Lindsey could've through osmosis gained some typically Brit ways of expressing himself.

I know if I'm around my sister-in-law & brother-in-law from Oklahoma for more than 2 days, this native Californian can subconsciously acquire an authentic Okie accent fairly quickly. (When my band toured Canada back in the Eighties, I was talking like a native Canuck by week 3) I can only imagine if I were around them full-time. Probably the same with both Lindsey & Stevie when Fleetwood Mac was together a majority of the time (the tours & recording sessions from '75-80) And, some of those ways of verbal expressions may have stuck.

Lol! This has always amused me - one I notice is they say "my pleasure" a lot which is not necessarily just British but I think they must have picked it up from the Brits.

[Macfanforever]

Thanks for the info.

Was She said - He said a game show awhile back.

[bombaysaffires]

I think it's on the one hand typically Stevie-centric thinking, but on the other hand, it's a case of Stevie more publicly acknowledging that her behavior during that time was out of control and had an impact on what transpired within the band. She's simultaneously romanticizing it and not romanticizing it which is a pretty hard thing to do!

I suspect that it was also Mick's behavior and even John's issues that got to Lindsey as well. He has said as much in the past-- and when he's talked about getting back together with the band for The Dance seeing not just the changes in Stevie but also in Mick was really good. (I think he says something about this in the DR doc as well).

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Lol! This has always amused me - one I notice is they say "my pleasure" a lot which is not necessarily just British but I think they must have picked it up from the Brits.

I also think Lindsey's use of the term "red rover" may have come from them.

It's not totally foreign to Americans, but after the song Red Rover his using it in SATC too just struck me as odd. It's more common for the English. And CAH mentioned them all saying "punters."

It's like Chris saying Stevie told her she was knackered. Stevie may have said that, but Christine might have been paraphrasing.

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I suspect that it was also Mick's behavior and even John's issues that got to Lindsey as well. He has said as much in the past-- and when he's talked about getting back together with the band for The Dance seeing not just the changes in Stevie but also in Mick was really good. (I think he says something about this in the DR doc as well).

Yes, Mick has said it was his own behavior that Lindsey didn't like and Lindsey always gripes about wanting to have more regular hours by that time and so them recording at his house got sort of trying -- for his girlfriend too. In the old days, Lindsey was right there with Mick pulling an all nighter and not minding one bit, but by 1987 maybe he had changed or was ready to get more sober before Mick and Stevie.

As for Stevie, when she listed the things that the Klonopin caused her to lose, she did mention that she might have gotten the band together sooner, if she hadn't been on the drug. So, even years ago she was thinking that the Klonopin kept them apart, even if she didn't also think it broke them apart. I think she might imagine that they could have come together after the BTM tour if she'd been straight.

As for John, I think it's kind of funny on the DR video when Lindsey was telling Stevie what the reunion meant to him and is crying and saying something about "John the way he is now." I don't know exactly what that sentence means, but it amused me, mainly because I think Lindsey was deliberately trying to soften Stevie up and throwing in everything he could think of.

Michele

[I'msoAfraid95]

Ill believe Lindsey's story over Stevie`s because its more of whatvI think is the truth. I do think that Stevie's poor health might have been *part* of what caused Lindsey to leave.

[WildHearted]

They're not conflicting stories, though. The fact that they got split into two different articles is unfortunate because it makes it seem as if these things were said independently of one another, when they weren't.

Stevie just exaggerated elaborated more than Lindsey did.

[michelej1]

Mick said that Stevie told Lindsey he'd never love anyone but himself and that makes me think what he said that caused her to respond with that line. Did he say something about love?

Michele

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I suspect that it was also Mick's behavior and even John's issues that got to Lindsey as well. He has said as much in the past-- and when he's talked about getting back together with the band for The Dance seeing not just the changes in Stevie but also in Mick was really good. .

Right! In mid 80s, Mick was a heavy cocaine addict, Stevie was in cocaine and then Klonopin. And John was a heavy drinker (Mick told in his book he was suffering a serious artistic block). It wasn't the best context to produce a good album, however Tango in the Night did it more than fine. Probably Lindsey felt exhausted, tired, angry and saturated after a big effort to produce and collaborate in a FM album (he didn't ask for in the first place) among people not doing their best. But that doesn't mean it was "because Stevie" specifically.