Mick Fleetwood Blames Nicks For Fleetwood Mac Tour Trouble

[TakenByTheSky23]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

So Mick is complaining that Stevie is touring to support a new album released last year instead of another tour with Fleetwood Mac which has not produced a note of new music in 9 yearsAs usual his motives are mercenary.

Agreed. I love you, Mick, but get a grip on reality. No new music since 2003. Diehards like us on here loved and didn't love certain things about the album, but overall is was the anticipation of the first brand new music since The Dance in 1997 that drove that tour. And we were thrilled. We were excited beyond words. Remember hearing the small snips of new tracks on the FM website back in early 2003? The track Say You Will was used as a promo for that 70's Show before we had the actual track, and I remember converting the commercial to mp3 and playing the bones out of it...because it was all so exciting and new. Unleashed in 2009 was all fine and good...we went to the shows and we loved it...but to tour again so soon without any new music is like beating a dead horse. I, for one, see and will see Fleetwood Mac whenever they come to Toronto. I'm happy hearing them play the standards and the stuff that made us love them - but to a degree. FM touring again so soon without a new album is not keeping your visibility fresh...it is making it quite stale, actually. You have to give people something to look forward to and care about. People that don't care about the new music will go to the shows anyway and have a pee or grab a drink while the new stuff plays, and the rest of us will go and sit through and love every minute of the shows. But I know that there are hardcore fans that refuse to see them again without new music. And with Christine gone, all the more reason to record again and keep things fresh. Great bands reinvent themselves. FM has been stellar for that up until recently.

Stevie, go and get your tour on (even if it is with Rusty Rod) and beat the s*** out of that record if you have to - you deserve it. Maybe Stevie, like the fans, wants something new and fresh to look forward to as well, and isn't crazy about touring with the same troop playing the same songs. She finally has something new on the go. Fleetwood Mac just shouldn't tour again until they record some new stuff.

And if they never record again, they'll all still be kicking in 2013 or 2014 - have a reunion tour then. You cant call it a reunion tour if you were all onstage together just three years ago. What's new about that?!?

Apologies for the epic, there.

[TrueFaith77]

New Mac Album > New Mac Tour > Stevie Solo Tour

They all's priorities is wack.

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by TakenByTheSky23

Agreed. I love you, Mick, but get a grip on reality. No new music since 2003. Diehards like us on here loved and didn't love certain things about the album, but overall is was the anticipation of the first brand new music since The Dance in 1997 that drove that tour. And we were thrilled. We were excited beyond words. Remember hearing the small snips of new tracks on the FM website back in early 2003? The track Say You Will was used as a promo for that 70's Show before we had the actual track, and I remember converting the commercial to mp3 and playing the bones out of it...because it was all so exciting and new. Unleashed in 2009 was all fine and good...we went to the shows and we loved it...but to tour again so soon without any new music is like beating a dead horse. I, for one, see and will see Fleetwood Mac whenever they come to Toronto. I'm happy hearing them play the standards and the stuff that made us love them - but to a degree. FM touring again so soon without a new album is not keeping your visibility fresh...it is making it quite stale, actually. You have to give people something to look forward to and care about. People that don't care about the new music will go to the shows anyway and have a pee or grab a drink while the new stuff plays, and the rest of us will go and sit through and love every minute of the shows. But I know that there are hardcore fans that refuse to see them again without new music. And with Christine gone,l the more reason to record again and keep things fresh. Great bands reinvent themselves. FM has been stellar for that up until recently.

Stevie, go and get your tour on (even if it is with Rusty Rod) and beat the s*** out of that record if you have to - you deserve it. Maybe Stevie, like the fans, wants something new and fresh to look forward to as well, and isn't crazy about touring with the same troop playing the same songs. She finally has something new on the go. Fleetwood Mac just shouldn't tour again until they record some new stuff.

And if they never record again, they'll all still be kicking in 2013 or 2014 - have a reunion tour then. You cant call it a reunion tour if you were all onstage together just three years ago. What's new about that?!?

Apologies for the epic, there.

No apologies necessary. It was said perfectly. Mic needs to save his money, buy a trailer and move to Florida. Mama can tour with Rod, Tom, Don, Peter , Paul and Mary if she wants to. She's happy on these tours but she looks like she's just going through the motions on the FM tours. If she should decide to tour again Stevie should sit those boys down (lindsey Mic and John) and tell them how SHE wants it to go down. She holds the power and she no longer needs to babysit Lindsey and his ego.

[MrStevie]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

She holds the power and she no longer needs to babysit Lindsey and his ego.

Like when she asked for his help on IYD?

[WildHearted]

No one was saying anything bad about Lindsey in this thread. Now if you someone came in defending Mick, maybe I could understand. But what's more ridiculous than excessive bashing is excessive defensiveness, especially when it is unfounded.

I love EVERYONE. I just wish they would all stop talking bad about each other in the press, and get these things worked out behind closed doors.

If asked about plans for FM to tour, all Mick had to say was, "Nothing is concrete yet. I hope we do, but we have to get everyone's schedules on the same page first."

Which basically sums up to the same conclusion as we got from what he actually said, but with a lot less fighting words!

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by MrStevie

Like when she asked for his help on IYD?

Oops, my mistake. How I could I forget that Lindsey was responsible for IYD

[MrStevie]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

Oops, my mistake. How I could I forget that Lindsey was responsible for IYD

Mike, I think you missed my point. I didn't make it well. I was talking about the album IYD and specifically the song Soldier's Angel. My bad.

I was hinting that Stevie had to ask Lindsey to help out to soothe his ego after praising Dave in public so much. I totally think she did that on purpose. A little love tap from the damsel in distress. He ran right over. Huge ego trip.

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by MrStevie

Mike, I think you missed my point. I didn't make it well. I was talking about the album IYD and specifically the song Soldier's Angel. My bad.

I was hinting that Stevie had to ask Lindsey to help out to soothe his ego after praising Dave in public so much. I totally think she did that on purpose. A little love tap from the damsel in distress. He ran right over. Huge ego trip.

Howdy Mr Stevie. I hear ya!! I think so much of it is politics. There is NO denying that Lindsey brings something to her music

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

Howdy Mr Stevie. I hear ya!! I think so much of it is politics. There is NO denying that Lindsey brings something to her music

When. He. Wants. To.

[elle]

Originally Posted by MrStevie

Mike, I think you missed my point. I didn't make it well. I was talking about the album IYD and specifically the song Soldier's Angel. My bad.

I was hinting that Stevie had to ask Lindsey to help out to soothe his ego after praising Dave in public so much. I totally think she did that on purpose. A little love tap from the damsel in distress. He ran right over. Huge ego trip.

[vivfox]

Has everyone's blood pressure risen up today? Reading this thread tonight has been so fascinating to me and fun. I love the way elle can write a few words and really stir up the pot. In the words of KC and the sunshine band: Keep it coming love.

[bombaysaffires]

Stevie writes her lyrics and her melodies-- It IS music. The lyrics and the melody are the heart of a song. The melody is the identifiable tune of the song that you hum and everyone recognizes as Dreams or Gypsy or Landslide or whatever. That's why she gets credit for words and music. What she doesn't do is arrange her music in a way that fleshes it out from a solo piano piece to a full band arrangement-- i.e. writing the accompanying, complementary drum/guitar/bass parts. But guess what ? Very few writers do.... That's what producers and arrangers do, and every single band uses one. That's what Jimmy Iovine did for Petty, what John Landau did for Springsteen, what George Martin did for the Beatles, what Rob Cavallo and RIchard Dashut have done with Lindsey. When other people send her a musical track, she writes a melody and lyrics to that as well.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

She holds the power and she no longer needs to babysit Lindsey and his ego.

This is the kind of tripe that I laugh at. "Babysitting" Lindsey and his ego? So Lindsey can't go out independently- as he has done MANY TIMES over and over and over again- without Stevie watching over him? I guess he has to call her for advice on his next album or for her input on his next songs? Honestly, can you actually justify some of the things you all say to slam Lindsey? It's obvious some of you- not all of course- have something against him for whatever reason and that is your prerogative. But you really ought to consider the things you say. The above is absolutely false. Babysitting Lindsey and his ego. Lindsey OWNS the stage when he is on it and he is mesmerizing. Not to slight Stevie because she has star power for sure, but you have no right to diminish what Lindsey has and sum his amazing talent to "ego" and nothing more.

Have you any clue the amount of greatness this man has done WITHOUT any input whatsoever from Stevie? Probably not, because it's all Stevie stars in your eyes. Anyone else, especially Lindsey, is just a side man. And that's too bad.

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by Nico

This is the kind of tripe that I laugh at. "Babysitting" Lindsey and his ego? So Lindsey can't go out independently- as he has done MANY TIMES over and over and over again- without Stevie watching over him? I guess he has to call her for advice on his next album or for her input on his next songs? Honestly, can you actually justify some of the things you all say to slam Lindsey? It's obvious some of you- not all of course- have something against him for whatever reason and that is your prerogative. But you really ought to consider the things you say. The above is absolutely false. Babysitting Lindsey and his ego. Lindsey OWNS the stage when he is on it and he is mesmerizing. Not to slight Stevie because she has star power for sure, but you have no right to diminish what Lindsey has and sum his amazing talent to "ego" and nothing more.

Have you any clue the amount of greatness this man has done WITHOUT any input whatsoever from Stevie? Probably not, because it's all Stevie stars in your eyes. Anyone else, especially Lindsey, is just a side man. And that's too bad.

Not enuff sleep or Under-sexed? Jk. Lindsey is a true talent and has given shape to most of Stevie's great songs but if you don't think that man has ego issues then you have drank the Kool Aid

[Nico]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

Not enuff sleep or Under-sexed? Jk. Lindsey is a true talent and has given shape to most of Stevie's great songs but if you don't think that man has ego issues then you have drank the Kool Aid

Your first sentence was hilariously incorrect, thank you. I just plainly do not agree with this "babysitting Lindsey's ego" stuff and I will speak up for it. I know very well he has an ego. Stevie does as well. Anyone who is in show business for a long enough time and had to endure highs and lows has one. But people use this far too much with Lindsey. You are not being balanced whatsoever. It's like you're basically saying: Stevie did him a favor by making the album and supporting it and performing live. She made sacrifices for him, the ego-maniac who totally depends on HER to stroke his ego. And that is false. Lindsey forges ahead with or without Stevie time and time again. And he does a bloody AMAZING job at that.