Mick Fleetwood Blames Nicks For Fleetwood Mac Tour Trouble

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

So Mick is complaining that Stevie is touring to support a new album released last year instead of another tour with Fleetwood Mac which has not produced a note of new music in 9 yearsAs usual his motives are mercenary.

Perhaps Stevie has finally decided that FM can rot. Without her, they have no leg to stand on, and when she works with them she only gets angry, frustrated and eventually exhausted.

One can only go on supporting an old lover for so long before you just don't care anymore.

[TakenByTheSky23]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Perhaps Stevie has finally decided that FM can rot. Without her, they have no leg to stand on, and when she works with them she only gets angry, frustrated and eventually exhausted.

One can only go on supporting an old lover for so long before you just don't care anymore.

Ha! She's done that before... I love it, and well said. Exactly. And perhaps Lindsey is thinking, "She won't record again with us without Dave Stewart producing? Eff that noise." He might feel bitter and resentful that Stevie basically said recording would stink without Stewart. And tension and frustrations abound on and on and on...

I just don't want things to get so bad that they never work together in any capacity again out of frustration and animosity. I don't want to hear "The Chain" down the road and go, "but they did break the chain...they said they never would..."

[Regina]

Originally Posted by TakenByTheSky23

Ha! She's done that before... I love it, and well said. Exactly. And perhaps Lindsey is thinking, "She won't record again with us without Dave Stewart producing? Eff that noise." He might feel bitter and resentful that Stevie basically said recording would stink without Stewart. And tension and frustrations abound on and on and on...

I just don't want things to get so bad that they never work together in any capacity again out of frustration and animosity. I don't want to hear "The Chain" down the road and go, "but they did break the chain...they said they never would..."

I'm pretty sure (although I have been wrong before) the original poster was referring to MICK, not Lindsey. There is no indication that Lindsey ever wanted to tour this year, other than in support of his own stuff (or, in support of Buckingham/Nicks).

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Regina

I'm pretty sure (although I have been wrong before) the original poster was referring to MICK, not Lindsey. There is no indication that Lindsey ever wanted to tour this year, other than in support of his own stuff (or, in support of Buckingham/Nicks).

Lindsey sounded like he was looking forward to a tour this year. He said he would be surprised if they didn't tour. He didn't say he wanted to exactly, but I assume that he and his accountant did.

However, when Stevie said she wanted to concentrate more on promoting IYD he said that was understandable, since she had more fun working on it than she'd had in a long time.

Michele

[Etisl]

Oh, they ofcourse will tour again. Fleetwood Mac....is not Fleetwood Mac.....unless there is some kind of fight. That tension and those egos, personalities.........are all of the reasons we love to see them on stage. If they were all just in love and peace with each other........we wouldn't be so interested. That is part of what makes them one of the VERY BEST live bands...still around. And, If I have to wait until 2013.......than I am cool with that.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Perhaps Stevie has finally decided that FM can rot. Without her, they have no leg to stand on, and when she works with them she only gets angry, frustrated and eventually exhausted.

One can only go on supporting an old lover for so long before you just don't care anymore.

I don't think that having a solo career automatically means flipping the bird to her band. My theory is that she is reluctant to sign on with Fleetwood Mac again because she is in a more creative space in her life- probably due to Dave Stewart's influence. She has fallen in love with the idea of making new music again which, as a solo artist, has been an immensely freeing and gratifying experience. By contrast, her most recent experience recording with FM was tortuous and turned her off of recording for many, many years. Plus, when you enlist in "the army," it is a heavy-duty commitment. Fleetwood Mac does not just go out to play on the weekends. It is easily a full-year commitment, if not more, covering many markets, countries and continents. I'm sure she loves the idea of being in Fleetwood Mac more than the actual drudgery that goes with working with Fleetwood Mac. I don't blame her one bit. Why should she drop everything and dive headlong into another grueling marathon oldies tour fraught with drama and politics, when she can continue to play her new music surrounded by a band that adores her? It's a no-brainer to me.

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

. Why should she drop everything and dive headlong into another grueling marathon oldies tour fraught with drama and politics, when she can continue to play her new music surrounded by a band that adores her? It's a no-brainer to me.

Amen, Ed. I agree with this whole-heartedly. Life is way too short to spend it being anything but happy and free. I do enjoy seeing Fleetwood Mac, but honestly, without new music, what's the point?

[jkmaletic]

Mick should just open another restaurant or sell more "whine" if he's that hard up for $$ again.

[MrStevie]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Mick should just open another restaurant or sell more "whine" if he's that hard up for $$ again.

He's been trying to open one for a while. One reason he needs more cash. Don't see how his "whine" can get him very far at this point. Not by spilling it on the player who holds all the cards.

[PenguinHead]

I can understand Mick from his perspective, sort of. My guess is that after he finished touring his Blues album, he's just sitting around,waiting for Fleetwood Mac.
Yet, Stevie and Lindsey are both preoccupied with their own solo ventures. He's essentially saying that Stevie is beating her album into the ground; he may be right about that, but that is her prerogative!

I don't like the idea of the prospect of them touring, yet again, without a new album to promote. It casts the band in a cash-grab, stale mode of existence. Any revelence and artistic integrity that the Fleetwood Mac brand had, is slowly eroding.

Unless they did something radical or unique- like drastically changing the set list, or adding former band members to the mix, they are at risk of being at the level of a Vegas or state faire, has-been band. It would great if they did something like performing Tusk in it's entirety, but without Christine in the mix, that would be unlikely.

[olive]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

. It casts the band in a cash-grab, stale mode of existence.
.

what do you call what Stevie did the 10 years between Trouble in Trouble in Shangri-La & In your Dreams ?

[Tango]

Such a tender way Mick has in reaching out to Stevie 3 months after her mother has passed: "Stevie, I need money. Fall in line here." What a loser. He should support her in whatever endeavor she wants to pursue. Mick should try some session work. He knows without Stevie and Lindsey he's SOL.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Amen, Ed. I agree with this whole-heartedly. Life is way too short to spend it being anything but happy and free. I do enjoy seeing Fleetwood Mac, but honestly, without new music, what's the point?

love popping up on here and reading inevitable conclusions how it always must be lindsey's fault in the end, even if what he says and does is completely opposite to the conclusions drawn.

i don'd begrudge you all looking at the world through a"chiffon filter" - whatever makes a person happy is all good with me . what i dislike to read is limitless lindsey bashing.

so, whose fault is it that there's no new FM music?!?!?! certainly not mick's. there are 2 songwriters currently in FM and one of them has been saying since unleashed that he wants to record new FM album.

and how is stevie creating NEW music? did you all read who wrote (almost exclusively!) new music on IYD? Dave Stewart (most of it), plus Mike Campbell, Neale Haywood... all music stevie wrote on that album is from like 20-30 years ago... other then SA:

No. Title Lyrics Music Length
1. "Secret Love" Stevie Nicks Stevie Nicks 3:15
2. "For What It's Worth" Stevie Nicks Michael Campbell 4:32
3. "In Your Dreams" Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 3:58
4. "Wide Sargasso Sea" Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 5:36
5. "New Orleans" Stevie Nicks Neale Heywood 5:34
6. "Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream)" Stevie Nicks Stevie Nicks 5:26
7. "Annabel Lee" adapted from Edgar Allan Poe Stevie Nicks, Waddy Wachtel 5:58
8. "Soldier's Angel" (with Lindsey Buckingham) Stevie Nicks Stevie Nicks 5:16
9. "Everybody Loves You" (with Dave Stewart) Stevie Nicks, Dave Stewart Dave Stewart 5:16
10. "Ghosts Are Gone" Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 6:06
11. "You May Be The One" Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 5:26
12. "Italian Summer" Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 4:38
13. "Cheaper Than Free" (with Dave Stewart) Stevie Nicks Dave Stewart 3:38

she wrote more new music for SYW than for IYD (didn't she work "like a maniac" on her 6 new songs? or 4, i don't remember).

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by elle

love popping up on here and reading inevitable conclusions how it always must be lindsey's fault in the end, even if what he says and does is completely opposite to the conclusions drawn.

i don'd begrudge you all looking at the world through a"chiffon filter" - whatever makes a person happy is all good with me . what i dislike to read is limitless lindsey bashing.

I love Lindsey, and haven't bashed him so I'm not sure why you used my quote to make your point. *My* point is that life is too short to be unhappy. It's my opinion that Stevie is at a place in her life where she should do whatever it takes to be happy, especially after the loss of her mom this year.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jannieC

I love Lindsey, and haven't bashed him so I'm not sure why you used my quote to make your point.

you are right... should have bolded a part about no new FM music b/c reading that type of statement in several posts is what finally got me to respond, even though i tried hard not to... and tbh i don't really know why i even clicked on the thread - obviously it was a big mistake.

really shouldn't have used your post, it's just the first one i grabbed and then the response to a bunch of them just poured out b/c reading some of those things just makes me wonder...