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Old 03-03-2012, 09:59 PM
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Gee, I didn't know we were just making it up as we went along and not concerned with what was really a hit. I didn't know the Ledgie rules were strictly 'opinion' based instead of having any legitimate reason.
I'm just letting everybody determine what they feel is a hit and shouldn't be in this contest. A "hit" is in the eye of the beholder, with most everyone having varying opinions.

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i knew you would have to say something!

see, it's actually still good here with MSB at least partly playing it democratically and by some rules.

over on lindsey board we are running the polls all over the place, and selecting the songs for any individual poll in more of a benevolent dictator kind of way.
Yeah, I've altered my original plans alot versus what I wanted.

I've tried following your polls, but I get kinda lost sometimes! Lots of songs with tight voting results.

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Seriously! But, I wasn't trying to be a butt about it -- I thought we were trying to legitimately determine the facts!

Well, what other kind of way would you run a Lindsey "His Middle Name is Dictator" Buckingham poll??
Have I mentioned how much I love the Ledge and you guys! Like I said earlier, it's all good discussion.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:04 PM
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I'm just letting everybody determine what they feel is a hit and shouldn't be in this contest. A "hit" is in the eye of the beholder, with most everyone having varying opinions.



Yeah, I've altered my original plans alot versus what I wanted.

I've tried following your polls, but I get kinda lost sometimes! Lots of songs with tight voting results.



Have I mentioned how much I love the Ledge and you guys! Like I said earlier, it's all good discussion.
Thanks! I feel the same -- sorry about not having a clear understanding about the determining factors. I probably still would go by my stringent rules myself - but I understand how/why others (like elle) feel non-singles were "hits" to them or to the fan base.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:08 PM
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Thanks! I feel the same -- sorry about not having a clear understanding about the determining factors. I probably still would go by my stringent rules myself - but I understand how/why others (like elle) feel non-singles were "hits" to them or to the fan base.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:26 PM
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I probably still would go by my stringent rules myself
benevolent dictatorship yet again

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but I understand how/why others (like elle) feel non-singles were "hits" to them or to the fan base.
just to clarify my view - i actually don't think these songs are necessarily hits to me or the fan base. i think in that case the song selection would again be completely different.

by "hits" i guess i think of the most popular songs in general, over the years - whether that would be because these songs were being released as singles that charted high, or being [over]played on the radio, tv or in public places over the years, and stood the test of time (worked themselves into a fabric as LB would say).

the songs that are always played during FM concerts but are never played on any classic radio stations or public places or as tv tracks (like ISA) would not count as hits in my mind, b/c they are not known by general public, however much an avarage FM fan would know them.

the way i think of a "hit" is something along the lines like somebody said over at the pre-rumours forum:
  • albatross version that was released as a single was not a hit
  • albatross version that became hugely popular and maybe even the most known FM song was a huge hit - even though it may have never charted as a single

similarly, if you look at lindsey's holiday road which is arguably his biggest solo hit, when it was released as a single it's highest chart position was only 80-something. but with time HR became a huge hit, and almost everybody knows that song (even if they don't know who sings it!) and you can still see that stupid video on VH1 to this day.

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Old 03-04-2012, 12:57 AM
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albatross version that was released as a single was not a hit
albatross version that became hugely popular and maybe even the most known FM song was a huge hit - even though it may have never charted as a single
I love Albatross but was unaware there are two different versions. Can someone please pm me the two?

I'm also interested in any live versions anyone has. Those can be posted publicly because they are not commercially released.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:25 AM
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I love Albatross but was unaware there are two different versions. Can someone please pm me the two?

I'm also interested in any live versions anyone has. Those can be posted publicly because they are not commercially released.
i might have misunderstood but that's what i got from this post http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...78&postcount=2. i wouldn't be surprised if there are several released albatross versions though.
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benevolent dictatorship yet again
I guess?

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just to clarify my view - i actually don't think these songs are necessarily hits to me or the fan base. i think in that case the song selection would again be completely different.

by "hits" i guess i think of the most popular songs in general, over the years - whether that would be because these songs were being released as singles that charted high, or being [over]played on the radio, tv or in public places over the years, and stood the test of time (worked themselves into a fabric as LB would say).

the songs that are always played during FM concerts but are never played on any classic radio stations or public places or as tv tracks (like ISA) would not count as hits in my mind, b/c they are not known by general public, however much an avarage FM fan would know them.

the way i think of a "hit" is something along the lines like somebody said over at the pre-rumours forum:
  • albatross version that was released as a single was not a hit
  • albatross version that became hugely popular and maybe even the most known FM song was a huge hit - even though it may have never charted as a single
Elle, that was confusing as hell...

Albatross is not a good example to use for me. I know the song but I didn't know there were different recorded versions.


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similarly, if you look at lindsey's holiday road which is arguably his biggest solo hit, when it was released as a single it's highest chart position was only 80-something. but with time HR became a huge hit, and almost everybody knows that song (even if they don't know who sings it!) and you can still see that stupid video on VH1 to this day.
This one's easy -- HR is popular with a crowd -- because they remember it from the movie!!
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