Watch wild-eyed celebs pray to their god Obama

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, no. There is a difference in opinion and fact. The R's use of religion in a facist manner is a fact. There really is no disputing that.





Come on - not even you can believe that. Name one good thing he's done?

Certainly I can dispute that the use of religion is fascist. No encroachment of civil rights has been made, only attempts to curtail the expansion of certain rights, IE gay marriage. You would be correct if gay marriage has been legal in the past and has been stopped, but that is not the case. They were trying to prevent it. That is freedom, my friend, not fascism. You might bring up blue laws, how many are actually enforced on a regular basis? Almost none, and only when the suspect is being investigated for something else and they need an excuse to hold him. IE that case you mentioned a month ago where the two gay guys were arrested on sodomy charges, however, you failed to mention that there was a gunfight of sorts and they were trying to keep them at bay while they investigated that. Basically, that argument is pathetic and isn't supported by the facts.

To answer your question, I think the fact that we haven't been attacked again is a great accomplishment. How many times were we attacked under Clinton? The first WTC attack, Khobar towers, several embassy bombings, McVeigh, etc. Also, his tax cuts were very successful. His tariff's on imported steel were also a good accomplishment. He has helped AIDS in Africa more than any other president in history. Basically, okay accomplishments, certainly not what one would expect over 8 years, 6 of which with a majority in congress and the senate.

On edit: It would be fascist for the Republicans to try to ban gary marriage through the courts, (as most leftist accomplishments in the last 30 years have been), however, they tried to send it through congress, the state legislatures, the governor's, etc. That is democracy and just because you don't like what they were trying to accomplish doesn't make it fascist. The fact of the matter is that congress is our representation against dictatorial regimes and sending anything through congress is exactly what should be happening. There is no fascism in submitting an unpopular or bad idea through the proper channels.