Honestly, now that Obama is the nominee........

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

On the human and civil rights front, he is a huge alternative If not - let's see the evidence supporting McCain. Please start with a non-religious reason why gays cannot get married and/or adopt. I submit there are none.

As for the economics - I think America is rightfully disgusted with the R's economic plan and rightfully so. You raise all these R talking points, but the bottom line is W has spent money like a silly housewife who cannot balance the checkbook and now someone has to pay the bill. Do you really trust the R party to do anything other than what it has done to us, which is screw us, for the last eight years

Also, the capital gains argument is a right wing BS talking point and you know it. But, if you really want to argue it accurately, raise the tax on stock market gains and lower or delete it from start up/venture capital gain tax.

First off, I don't trust the party to curb spending. I do trust McCain to do so, because he has a track record of stopping wasteful spending. It's not an either or question, it's a which is MORE horrible, but both alternatives are horrible.

Also, I DON'T know that the Capital Gains thing is BS. It's true, if you tax investment MORE, people will invest LESS. It is simple logic. I haven't raised ANYONE's talking points. Like I said, I have an advanced business degree and work in business. It's simple logic. I have to work with venture capitalists on a daily basis and raising capital gains will cost future jobs. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. I mean, this is economics 101. Even a big lefty like Paul Krugman says this in his textbooks!

I don't agree with McCain that gays can't adopt. I would support a hierarchy system for adoption. Married couples at the top, gays second and singles last. Having a lot of "aunties", without a stable father figure, caused a lot of problems for me. I think most gay people are GREAT parents, but there is still gender identity lacking in the relationship. I think a mother and father is optimal and ideal, but not always possible.

As far as gay marriage goes, I agree that it should be up to the states. Why is this a federal issue?! Marriage shouldn't even be a legal issue. If you want someone to have your rights of survivorship, etc a simple contract will do. Both straights and gays would be doing this in my optimal world. Why should Obama consider this a federal issue? I don't agree with my party on the amendment. I don't believe the government has any business in what was originally a religious issue. I mean, if you go to a church that will marry 5 guys, a donkey and a porkchop, by all means they're married. I don't know why the federal government has anything to say about it.