Election day results discussion thread

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by The Tower

It's fruitless.



You are seriously delusional . . . .

All I know is what I saw in this instance and it was as I said. Is it fruitless on a national scale? Who can say. All I know is I feel better having these people working on the inside. I think their actions are just as noble as those of non-R's who make sacrifices. I mean these people I am talking about live with lots of heartache, have been threatened, etc. And, they have made great advances in the way many R's think about gay people. I know because I have seen it with my own two eyes as opposed to your one, Martha the cyclops

Interestingly, the same could be said in theory for the D's as they are hardly any better than the R's. I cite to the fact that you can still be thrown out of the military for being gay and the DOMA, which they both supported. The vast majority of the D's also support no gay marriage and many no civil unions, etc. The D's are also hardly huge supporters of AIDS related causes ( http://www.actupny.org/reports/bcn/BCNclinton.html ) -- Also, W did NOT rescind the Federal Executive Order making it illegal to fire a Federal Govt. employee solely for being gay, as many here predicted he would do.

So, while I totally get that the D's are better than the R's on most gay related issues, they are hardly with clean hands - though granted the D's do not want to jail people for having consenual gay sex. So, supporting them is just a variation of supporting bad people when you think about irt. That is why my friends work so hard to change the Republican party. Again, I cannot see how having people working within the Republican party is a bad thing or really any different than a gay person lobbying the Democratic party.