i hate George Bush!

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Lux

From an outsiders perspective.......when you consider the definition of fascism (which I won't go into, it's rather long), it's a strikingly accurate description of the situation that Mr. Genital Region has embraced and expanded. Try telling Americans that and you get bombarded with excuses, but you tell the Germans of the '30s (assuming one could devise some for of time-travel craft) what they were being sucked into and they'd respond with some sort of logic derived from the propaganda they were being fed. The very idea of something resembling the Patriot Act is ludicrous and blatantly fascist, they just try to smooth it over with their propaganda. Whist we learn in our modern history classes about fascism and propaganda in Germany, it is becoming accepted that not too far in the future we'll be learning about the same thing in the US. Most Americans don't realise this, but neither did the Germans.

So yes, wave your flag all day and tell us that you're free and living in the home of the brave, but if you look at the rights stripped of you, and the disadvantage you're in by being an american resident, it might occur to you why many of us are having good ol' laugh and a coronary at your expense.
- obviously I didn't mean 'you' specifically, just as a general reference. I'm just so sick of hearing about the land of the free or whatever it is. It's very ironic actually.

Actually down here in Oz we're heading in your direction, but in reality we're still a fair way from it. Our current prime minister does intend to run us into the ground by the time he's out, which by our system of government, could be 20 years away, if he can hold out. What's this, our tertiary education system is now the 2nd worst in the western world (2nd only to america)?

Meh, I could go forever so I'll just choose this random point to end on.

you're kidding me right? You can't POSSIBLY compare the US right now to 1930's Germany. It's ridiculous. We are the land of the free and the home of the brave and the best country there is. And I admit I hate Bush becuase of his Stupid War that we have no reason to be fighting, but there have been Stupid Wars in our history before, how is this any different. And Lux since you think we're so facist why isn't David Letterman or Jay Leno or any of those comedians who blast the goverment SHOT. That's what happens in real tryanical goverments. So until I hear that David Letterman has been arressted and executed by the goverment I think you are just crazy.