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Originally Posted by elle
i think if even a small part of abuse allegations is true, the woman had every right in the world to write a book and air that out, as a therapy.
there may be tons of inaccuracies and the book may be horribly written (and the woman may be far from the sharpest knife in a drawer), but that doesn't justify all the hate i'm reading in this thread.
just my 0.02.
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Well said. Thank you. It's truly amazing to me that all that some people take away after reading this book, is that Stevie was slighted.
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Originally Posted by Wynne
OH MY GOD there is footage of Lindsey making out with this woman Carol? EWwww, sorry I just can't imagine it. This woman has zero personality. I guess I am judging her because when you're young and have a wonderful romantic image in your head about two people, it's hard to see them with another person. Even more hard when the person is boring, no self esteem and was clearly just a groupie girlfriend that Lindsey used as a Mommy figure. The song Go Insane, when he says "She's a lot like you" is he comparing her to Stevie?
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Yeah, people can be unrealistic like that when they're very young. I'm probably a lot older than you, because it doesn't disgust me to see a guy kiss his girlfrined
Also, I'm curious as to how you know that Carol has no personality? How much time have you spent with her?
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Originally Posted by Deeshere
As to Carol's memory, I believe Carol really did love Lindsey (not sure if Lindsey truly loved Carol, but I think he tried to) and wanted to believe he no longer cared or loved Stevie, but I did read that when Carol was doing press for the book she admitted that she knew Lindsey still loved Stevie no matter how crazy Stevie made him and that she knew Lindsey in fact loved Stevie the entire time she was with him. However, Carol failed to mention this fact in her book.
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I agree. I think Carol and Lindsey both loved each other. As Michele stated, they were together for seven years. Carol's love for Lindsey came through very clearly in the book. I don't get why people think that Lindsey can't love Carol and still have "a thing" for Stevie. People do it all the time. It's possible to feel love for two people at once, and it's certainly possible to be in love with Carol, and still have strong feelings for Stevie. Those feelings don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by Deeshere
I did not see her book as bashing Stevie, like some fans say she did.
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I don't either. The book is about her life with Lindsey, and about her life with FM - including Stevie. Some good...some bad.
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Originally Posted by Deeshere
As to Carol recording conversations, to me that speaks VOLUMES. If you plan on spending the rest of your life with this man then why record thoughts, stories and conversations for later, UNLESS you think it may not last and that you might possibly write a book about your experiences later on. Carol would have known how private Lindsey is and that he would NEVER have approved her writing a story about him and the band if they stayed together.
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That's a really good point. It's a weird thing to do, and Lindsey being upset about it isn't at all surprising.
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Originally Posted by Deeshere
As for Carol's claims that Lindsey violent attacked her for no reason, I am not sure what to think about that. I think some of it must have been true, because Stevie has admitted Lindsey choked her during a fight and Ken Calliat claims Lindsey choked him for erasing some guitar tracks.
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Not to pick on you, because, I actually hear that a lot, that Stevie said Lindsey choked her. I don't follow Stevie, obviously, but I don't recall ever hearing her say that. I recall her saying when Lindsey said he was quitting the band, that she became angry, and that she could be scary, herself (or something to that effect), and that she lunged at Lindsey, which made him mad, and he went after her, chasing her through Chris's house, and throwing her on the car hood. I also recall John saying there was a big fight or argument, and making a choking motion with his hands. He didn't say who was choking whom. A lot of people assume it was Lindsey choking Stevie, but do we know that for a fact? If she really said that, could someone please share the source. It's also worth noting that John was (reportedly) violent and scary when he drank, as well. Didn't Chris say she and Stevie hid in closets or something when the guys were roaming around , yelling for them? Yet Lindsey is the only one who gets the bad reputation, making it a lot easier for Ken Cailliat to write about him in his book, and have people believe him. It may very well be true, but I don't take it as gospel just because Ken said it. Personally, I believe (though I don't actually know) that Lindsey was violent back then. I also think they were
all screwed up and the that drugs and alcohol played a big part in it. Carol is the only one of Lindsey's girlfriends to claim Lindsey was violent. Anne Heche, Cheri Caspari, Kristen...nobody else had anything but good things to say about him, so I tend to think that it was only in those earlier years, from Rumours and Tusk era. Again, correct me, if I missed something that Stevie said. I know she said she couldn't handle the darkness or something, but that could have been depression, it could have been his anger or scariness, but not necessarily a specific act of abuse. Again, they were all a bit out of control at that time. So many times, the topic, no matter how benign, on here,seems to comes back to Lindsey hit Stevie, or Lindsey was abusive with Stevie, and yet we don't actually know that, right?