Shame on you, NC

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Well that's interesting. I re-read this entire thread and I really can't find one string of words you wrote that even sort-of implies that you and Obama share the same (or even remotely similar) position on this issue. I'd say most readers would walk away with the impression that you fall on the completely opposite end of the spectrum.



Just sayin'. Clearly - I, and others, misunderstood you.

You mean this wasn't clear?

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

I want it to be clear that I have not stated my opinion on this subject at all (i.e., I have not indicated how I would vote). My points were simply to explain that a) it doesn't take a bigot to think marriage is defined as being a union between a man and a woman and b) this is not Civil Rights issue, according to my understanding of the term (another analogy: if same-sex marriages were legalized, but effiminate men were excluded from participating in them (as was the case with establishments serving alcohol in NY), THEN it would be a Civil Rights issue). There are a lot of Civil Rights issues that are being neglected by elitist gays and their Gay Orthodoxy.

For the record and for the benefit of the rest of the board, since Civil "Marriages" exist, if put to a vote, I would vote to allow any two consenting adults to be "married." But, again, I'm only one vote. And I'm OK with that.

Obama agrees that it doesn't take a bigot to have the opposite opinion, he agrees that it's not a Civil Rights issue and that it should be decided at the State level, and he would vote for Civil Marriages to be expanded to include same-sex couples. Those are all the positions I stated in the above quoted post from 5/10.

ETA: I also re-read the thread and see that you had written this:

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

I suppose that is the heart of our disagreement. I do see marriage for gays as a civil rights issue. It's okay by me that you don't.

So... you had noted that it was on that point that we disagreed, which means you recognized, at that time, that you and I and Obama agreed on most things, but that Obama and I disagreed with you re: whether it is a civil rights issue (which, by definition, deals with Constitutional law--and, thus, Federal jurisdiction, which both Obama and I feel it does not--and he's a Constitutional Lawyer, so....). So I'm confused as to where you "really can't find one string of words you wrote that even sort-of implies that you and Obama share the same (or even remotely similar) position on this issue," when you are the person who summarized my position (my "string of words")--and perfectly identified your difference with me & Obama--so succinctly.