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Old 06-07-2011, 12:28 AM
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Also, I have very little to do this summer. Literally, in August I think I'm working one day a week--what better time to chase Stevie across the country? And how unique will that look as an extracurricular/summer activity on my grad school apps?

I'd really rather not have to go all the way to Australia for her. Sometimes, school takes priority over Stevie...(not often).
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:50 AM
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Also, I have very little to do this summer. Literally, in August I think I'm working one day a week--what better time to chase Stevie across the country? And how unique will that look as an extracurricular/summer activity on my grad school apps?
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:56 AM
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Oh, of course! If Stevie tours, we will find a way to make this happen
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:36 AM
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There is so much wrong right here.
Louie! Dude! Just because this album hasn't had the promotion it deserves doesn't mean it needs to continue to skulk off towards the sunset without a peep. These songs are incredible! They deserve to be heard.
And Stevie may be disappointed to play smaller venues, but at least she'll see that people care. Wouldn't it be a bigger blow to have the album entirely forgotten, those songs played only once? How can she throw herself creatively into a Fleetwood Mac album if an album she considers her great artistic achievement goes completely unrecognized?
The songs are indeed very good. I would disagree that they're incredible, but opinions are subjective so there's no point in me arguing that. I'm not downplaying the fact this is one of Stevie's best albums, it absolutely is. I'm just saying that the way it's been handled is a trainwreck. There isn't much of a point in Stevie touring now because it won't really equate to more sales. Stevie's just toured SO MUCH this decade. I'd much rather see her keep her recording energy flowing, that's all. We've waited so very long for new material. I guess I'd just rather her keep recording vs wasting more time touring.

And if these songs really meant the world to Stevie, she would have performed more than Secret Love this year. Especially for the casino shows just after IYD was released. But she didn't. Yes, the Wiltern was the show of every Stevie fan's wet dreams. But it was a one-off event. That sort of setlist will never happen again. When Stevie tours this summer (and she will tour, that's what she does folks), we'll be back to the same old setlist, with just a few new songs sprinkled in. If Stevie were truly proud of her album, she'd play that Wiltern set every night on her upcoming tour. But she won't. And that's why Stevie touring holds zero interest to me anymore. I'd much rather her hit the studio and try to make up for her 10 year hiatus!
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:44 AM
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And if these songs really meant the world to Stevie, she would have performed more than Secret Love this year. Especially for the casino shows just after IYD was released. But she didn't. Yes, the Wiltern was the show of every Stevie fan's wet dreams. But it was a one-off event. That sort of setlist will never happen again. When Stevie tours this summer (and she will tour, that's what she does folks), we'll be back to the same old setlist, with just a few new songs sprinkled in. If Stevie were truly proud of her album, she'd play that Wiltern set every night on her upcoming tour. But she won't. And that's why Stevie touring holds zero interest to me anymore. I'd much rather her hit the studio and try to make up for her 10 year hiatus!
I honestly think that we're going to get 4-5 new songs off the record on a summer tour. You have to keep in mind that a lot of this isn't necessarily Stevie's choice... she has a lot of people who rely on her paycheck who know that she sells better when playing the hits. I think Stevie takes other people's advice and just goes with it.

Frankly, Louie, I think you're going to be very surprised. Dave WILL tour with her if she isn't with Rod and Dave WILL try to convince her to play more of the new record. We wouldn't have gotten 8 new songs at the Wiltern without him, and the performances went so well that I couldn't see him letting her drop the ball.
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I honestly think that we're going to get 4-5 new songs off the record on a summer tour. You have to keep in mind that a lot of this isn't necessarily Stevie's choice... she has a lot of people who rely on her paycheck who know that she sells better when playing the hits. I think Stevie takes other people's advice and just goes with it.

Frankly, Louie, I think you're going to be very surprised. Dave WILL tour with her if she isn't with Rod and Dave WILL try to convince her to play more of the new record. We wouldn't have gotten 8 new songs at the Wiltern without him, and the performances went so well that I couldn't see him letting her drop the ball.
I fully realize this is just my opinion, and mine alone, but I have lost all interest in seeing Stevie live ever again. I just don't care about that aspect anymore. I guess I devoured IYD so quickly that I'm already longing for new material from Stevie. I've been a Stevie fan for 18 years, and this past decade has just been maddening. So many dropped balls. So much forward momentum lost. Tours year after year without new material to support; horrid cover songs thrown into the setlist. It has just totally soured me to ever paying to see Stevie live again. Yes, I know I'm probably the only Stevie fan who feels this way and I'm fine with that. I respect all the other fans longing for yet another summer tour. I'm just not one of those people.

My thought train is this: I just don't want Stevie to get back into the touring rut, and push recording back into a dark corner. Her management seems intent on doing just that. I want more new material from Stevie because IYD was really good. And I think it's just the tip of the iceberg of what she's still capable of. I just want her to hurry back into recording, hopefully with Fleetwood Mac. I don't want to see her management pimp her out on yet another hit$ tour. And then another after that. Yes, I know that most fans don't feel that way, and I am speaking for no one but myself.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:36 AM
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At this point, I hope she bypasses touring and goes straight into recording with Fleetwood Mac instead. The ball has been dropped in regards to promoting this album: Stevie wasn't put on the late night talk shows, she didn't have a music video to promote her first single until it was too late, she saturated the major touring markets earlier this year with Rod Stewart, she sang only ONE song from the new album at all her shows this year (sans Wiltern), and the album itself is set to fall off the charts next week. I think IYD is past the point of revival at this point.
Agreed. The way this has been promoted and (not) performed has been a total mess.

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I'm just saying that the way it's been handled is a trainwreck.

And if these songs really meant the world to Stevie, she would have performed more than Secret Love this year. Especially for the casino shows just after IYD was released. But she didn't. Yes, the Wiltern was the show of every Stevie fan's wet dreams. But it was a one-off event. That sort of setlist will never happen again. When Stevie tours this summer (and she will tour, that's what she does folks), we'll be back to the same old setlist, with just a few new songs sprinkled in. If Stevie were truly proud of her album, she'd play that Wiltern set every night on her upcoming tour. But she won't. And that's why Stevie touring holds zero interest to me anymore. I'd much rather her hit the studio and try to make up for her 10 year hiatus!
Again, I agree completely. It's been a massive contradiction between the faith and confidence Stevie projects in this album and a seeming insecurity with her tour setlists. I hope I'm wrong though. However, we're used to such infuriating contradictions.

However, having never seen Stevie live as a solo performer at all I can't agree with louie's final statement. Of course I'll go and see her and be VERY excited about it! Sad as it is, fans in other territories than US/Australia just have to take what we can get!
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:49 AM
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I can't wait to hear an actual tour schedule! If it's in the US I'll try and get tickets and work a budget out, but if there ay Europan dates I'm THERE! After about 12 years as a fan I can finally see her live solo!
European dates? What are those then? Speak english!
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:58 AM
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I honestly think that we're going to get 4-5 new songs off the record on a summer tour. You have to keep in mind that a lot of this isn't necessarily Stevie's choice... she has a lot of people who rely on her paycheck who know that she sells better when playing the hits. I think Stevie takes other people's advice and just goes with it.
When artists go out and tour for their record, they play songs off their new record. I tend to think people come to hear the new stuff, as well. I just saw Kylie Minogue a few weeks ago (I previously saw her greatest hits tour) and she sang all but 2 songs off her new album, PLUS her biggest hits. She has a huge catalog of stuff, that people seem to not miss the songs she didn't perform. Kylie also takes one or requests that are not in her setlists from the audience and sings them a capella. It is such a rare treat to hear those because they vary from night to night. Why can't Stevie sing a few bars from Nightbird or Angel? It would salivate the fans and make a lot of people happy with just a few lines....

With that said, Stevie hasn't toured behind a new album since TISL...and she did start with songs from the record...Every Day, Planets, Sorcerer, Bombay Sapphires, Fall From Grace....but eventually BS and Planets were dropped. It's ashame.... I will never understand the distaste for new, live songs. I would not want to be in her band! What a bore of a show day in and day out!
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:35 AM
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I have faith that Stevie will tour behind In Your Dreams, it's just a matter of logistics at this point and plans will probably be unveiled in a few weeks to a month. I agree with Macmanforever that the Heart & Soul tour threw Stevie off a bit. She was saddled singing a nostalgia setlist, not a IYD set list. And as far as promotion for IYD, H&S was a cash grab mistake which I believe did little to elevate exposure for her new CD & caused her to become fatigued and eventually sick right when her new record came out, no time to rehearse new material for the casino shows sprinkled throughout May and to cancel TV appearances & Webster Hall . But despite that IYD has done reasonably well (selling 100K copies so far) with little promotion & still is in the top 50 albums in it's 5 week (dropping 1 spot this week).

I can understand why some want Stevie to go back in the studio & record. But that's unrealistic, especially if IYD drops outta sight and does not sell respectably by the years end - that alone would be incentive for Stevie not to want to record again solo or with FM. And besides, Lindsey is busy the rest of the year with his own solo record with a smattering of scheduled gigs & appearances here and there - there is no way for FM to record this year anyway. Stevie is doing press now in the UK, prepping Europe for IYD's release date there in a few weeks, and then probably back here in July hopefully with a new single and announcement of the official In Your Dreams 2011 Tour with Dave or with someone else (ala Chris Issaks) to keep her busy promoting her incredible new record throughout the rest of the year till the holidays. And less we forget, we still have the documentary/film to look forward to in @2-3 months in some form or another. So promotion for Stevie's record is far from over.

2012 will be the reconvening of Fleetwood Mac, either on the road or in the studio (fingers crossed) or both.

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When artists go out and tour for their record, they play songs off their new record. I tend to think people come to hear the new stuff, as well. I just saw Kylie Minogue a few weeks ago (I previously saw her greatest hits tour) and she sang all but 2 songs off her new album, PLUS her biggest hits. She has a huge catalog of stuff, that people seem to not miss the songs she didn't perform. Kylie also takes one or requests that are not in her setlists from the audience and sings them a capella. It is such a rare treat to hear those because they vary from night to night.
I saw her in March and she did exactly this - it was WONDERFUL!! I've been a huge fan for over 20 years and it was by far the best show she has ever done. The acapella requests thing is now and I'm so glad she does that now. What requests did she do on your night?
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I saw her in March and she did exactly this - it was WONDERFUL!! I've been a huge fan for over 20 years and it was by far the best show she has ever done. The acapella requests thing is now and I'm so glad she does that now. What requests did she do on your night?
Well, when she did the "For You, For Me" Tour I saw her all three nights in NYC....I can't remember them all...but one night was "Your Disco Needs You"....the whole song a cappella! AMAZING. The last night was "I Should Be So Lucky"...the version on the live CD. I can't recall the first night request.

I saw "Les Follies" in Ft Lauderdale and she did "Hand On Your Heart" and another one but I was so in shock with HOYH, I don't remember the other song.
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Well, when she did the "For You, For Me" Tour I saw her all three nights in NYC....I can't remember them all...but one night was "Your Disco Needs You"....the whole song a cappella! AMAZING. The last night was "I Should Be So Lucky"...the version on the live CD. I can't recall the first night request.

I saw "Les Follies" in Ft Lauderdale and she did "Hand On Your Heart" and another one but I was so in shock with HOYH, I don't remember the other song.
Yes - we got Your Disco Needs You Too! She pulled a guy from the front rwo up on stage. He was 3 people away from me in the same row and for a second I thought she was pointing at me!! Alas, no. It was a guy called Robert who was in drag and actually dressed in a similar jacket to Kylie at the time (the orange fethery Step Back In Time type one). She complemented his look but said that she was wearing better shoes! He then asked for Your Disco Needs You and yes, she did it... complete with those HUGE high notes at tne end 0 flawless!

Hand On Your Heart is my favourite early Kylie tune! I've seen her do it twice before but if she'd done it on the Les Follies tour - I'd have loved it!! The biggest shock of the night was If You Don't Love Me though - such a beautiful surprise!
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I fully realize this is just my opinion, and mine alone, but I have lost all interest in seeing Stevie live ever again.
Would you still feel this way if she played the Wiltern setlist on the tour? Just curious.
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