Is In Your Dreams too long? - Page 2

mezzoforte · #16 05-14-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flickersticked;984413}

I think it's fascinating how so many people love songs other people can't stand

Secret Love has finally grown on me but I skip New Orleans, Soldier's Angel and Cheaper than Free every time. I think You May Be the One is perfection. I think it's pretty cool how much even us hardcore Stevie fans vary in our opinions.

Agreed.

And that's why I don't think it's too long. There are some songs I'm neutral towards and have already axed from my playlist (Secret Love, Annabel Lee, GAG), but others love them: Annabel Lee is at the top of many lists. Objectively, none of these songs are actually bad and when so many people love them I can't really consider them filler.

chriskisn · #17 05-14-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown

Cheaper Than Free (The album ends so strong with Italian Summer. This one sounds like two aging drunk rock starts who stayed too late at the party. Too sappy for me).

I'd go as far as to say that it is the worst song of Stevie's career but then someone will go and mention 'the forgotten chimpanzee'

TerraRhiannon · #18 05-14-2011, 08:48 PM

No. I would never take any of the songs off, they are all beautiful.. there is almost nothing I don't like about this album. I would keep it as it is.

WildHearted · #19 05-14-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn

I'd go as far as to say that it is the worst song of Stevie's career but then someone will go and mention 'the forgotten chimpanzee'

Yes, but we can blame the Klonopin for that one...

There's no excuse for Cheaper Than Free.

Jondalar · #20 05-14-2011, 08:54 PM

Cheaper than free is a good song. It's amazing to me that some people are making fun of the lyrics and hold up alot of dribble from the past.

But I like some kind of TIME/LIFE edition,
Tradition, competition...
Being the only thing that I really have to remember
The great singers and the great players

Lay off the Jack!

TrueFaith77 · #21 05-14-2011, 09:01 PM

I like Cheaper than Free, even though I do believe it is flawed. My only problem is that I feel that it was conceived for the Dave album and that that makes it seem out of place, but maybe it's because I'm bringing "insider" knowledge to my experience.

Meanwhile, I tried to cut the album down to 10 songs and it didn't work. It needs the first 12 tracks. So when I read about people making playlists out of the album, I feel like I second chili's request that the album have been issued as one long track. Also, I can't start this album without finishing it.

Macfanforever · #22 05-14-2011, 09:16 PM

No I would not cut any tunes out of IYD cd.I would add a few more to the cd to max it out to about 79 minutes .thats about 5 more lovely tunes.

michelej1 · #23 05-14-2011, 10:41 PM

I think it's the right length. I would cut Cheaper Than Free, but I would also replace it with My Heart, so I wouldn't change the album length.

I can see why a dance song might only be 3 minutes or so, but when a song is more layered, I almost feel cheated if it's shorter than 5 minutes, because it would seem to be over before I'd fully experienced it.

Michele

Garbo · #24 05-14-2011, 10:57 PM

I like My Heart where it's sequenced in the UK and B&N/WB version, but would drop ELY (or keep it but lose DS vocals) and for sure lose CTF. Otherwise, I don't mind long albums at all.

tabruns · #25 05-14-2011, 11:00 PM

To answer your question, no the album is not too long. The extra songs, as you've seen, are ones that other people love. Plus, you can always remove songs via playlist, so having them there in the first place isn't that big a deal.

It stuns me that you would remove "Moonlight", because that's widely recognized as one of the best songs on the album. Doesn't mean that you should feel the same way, I'm just pointing out that you're probably the first person I've seen that doesn't like that song. In fact, I did an informal poll of what should be the next single off the album and "Moonlight" and "In Your Dreams" tied.

I wouldn't really remove anything from the album. I love it all. If I did anything at all, I *might* take off "Soldier's Angel" but only to put it on a revamped version of Say You Will.

Thrown_Down · #26 05-15-2011, 05:52 AM

I have to say that I think it works really well as a 10 track album. I removed 'Soldier's Angel', because as much as I like it, I don't feel like it fits the tone of the album too well, 'You May Be The One', because I feel it made the second half of the album a touch too hit and miss, and 'Cheaper Than Free', because it totally detracts from the marvellous crescendo that the album builds to in 'Italian Summer', which as so many before have said, ought to have been the closer.

TrueFaith77 · #27 05-15-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I think it's the right length. I would cut Cheaper Than Free, but I would also replace it with My Heart, so I wouldn't change the album length.

I can see why a dance song might only be 3 minutes or so, but when a song is more layered, I almost feel cheated if it's shorter than 5 minutes, because it would seem to be over before I'd fully experienced it.

Michele

The right length is a different matter. I really do believe that albums should be able to fit on vinyl. I should also be able to hear a complete album from my apt door to my work desk in the morning. I also LOVE short songs and never feel cheated if they are perfectly proportioned. Now, Stevie indulges her long-song expressions in this album. And I don't mind. This time. I wish Lindsey's songs were shorter. His short tracks on Tusk are genius. Gone are the days of Wire's Pink Flag. But Cheap Trick's recent, great album The Latest features pop-sized gems. I just put "These Days" on repeat. I wouldn't want it longer. I want to be left wanting more.

I also believe movies not directed by Steven Spielberg or David Lean should be restricted to 90 minutes.

Dodfather · #28 05-15-2011, 08:09 AM

I'd ditch Cheaper Than Free and replace it with a permanent (i.e. non bonus track) My Heart, but that's just because I personally don't like the latter song too much (and I'm a country fan!) but I can see why it's there and so no, I don't think the album is toolong. Sorry if that's a bit confused.....

On Ice · #29 05-15-2011, 08:45 AM

After a 10 year recording hiatus, the album length is perfect and would not work as a shorter album as well as it does with it's 13-14 tracks. A good example of a short album in today's technology is Heart's Red Velvet Car, I couldn't imagine it without the two bonus tracks on the version I have. Besides, wouldn't Bella Donna be wonderful with the Dealer, Blue Lamp and Lady from the Mountain?

bluefox4000 · #30 05-15-2011, 08:52 AM

The IYD I made with the 3 songs cut runs 52 means. Much less daunting then an hour and 6 minutes. I find it odd that they chose to open and close the album with 2 of the weaker tracks. Still love the record to DEATH, but it's amazing what A little trimming can do

Mick