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Old 05-12-2011, 12:08 AM
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It is the best reviewed album of her solo career. I'm sure Stevie cares. She worked hard on this thing, and can barely promote it. She doesn't need this ****. Obviously, other people care about Metacritic because they continue to site it in her stupid Wikepedia and people do use it for background information. I mean come on. Get out of your bubble. It matters. I'm tired of seeing her being lambasted for not being with Fleetwood Mac, or being a hippie. At least she tries to write her own stuff and be an artist. You would think at the age 63 the crap would stop. Not quite.
Bubble? Come on...She has gotten, I would say, 95% positive reviews, and yet you dwell on the 5% negative. That's natural! Not everyone is going to love something that she puts out!

Do you really think that her Metacritic reviews are going to cause more people to buy her album, or for Stevie to think differently about the work that she has put out? No. As Louie said, the majority of people don't even know what Metacritic is.

You mention that they "continue to site [sic] it in her stupid Wikipedia"...if you don't like it, go in there and edit it out.

She is getting amazing reviews, with the few token negative reviews. She's not going to get an across-the-board 5/5-star album. There's nothing anyone can do about that, not even Stevie if she were to go back and re-record the album with those negative reviews in mind.

She's done amazingly well with this album, and it's pointless to dwell on those who disagree.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:18 AM
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Bubble? Come on...She has gotten, I would say, 95% positive reviews, and yet you dwell on the 5% negative. That's natural! Not everyone is going to love something that she puts out!

Do you really think that her Metacritic reviews are going to cause more people to buy her album, or for Stevie to think differently about the work that she has put out? No. As Louie said, the majority of people don't even know what Metacritic is.

You mention that they "continue to [sic] site it in her stupid Wikipedia"...if you don't like it, go in there and edit it out.

She is getting amazing reviews, with the few token negative reviews. She's not going to get an across-the-board 5/5-star album. There's nothing anyone can do about that, not even Stevie if she were go go back and re-record the album with those negative reviews in mind.

She's done amazingly well with this album, and it's pointless to dwell on those who disagree.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:29 AM
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metacritic is like Rottentomatoes.com. People do use it and if you look at all the reviews from various albums it is important. I'm happy that you louie aren't aware of it or don't care about it, but this post is not about you or him.
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metacritic is like Rottentomatoes.com. People do use it and if you look at all the reviews from various albums it is important. I'm happy that you louie aren't aware of it or don't care about it, but this post is not about you or him.
You got that rightThere is absolutely nothing wrong with this thread .It is completely pertinent and valid in the discussion of Stevie's new album which is what this forum is esstentially all about.Correct me if i'm wrong.
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You got that rightThere is absolutely nothing wrong with this thread .It is completely pertinent and valid in the discussion of Stevie's new album which is what this forum is esstentially all about.Correct me if i'm wrong.
Thank you! I cannot tell you how many times over the years I have searched out such sites to decide if I wanted to purchase something. Just today, my brother asked me about the new Thor movie. I told him that rottentomatoes.com gave it positive reviews and he had a eureka moment and went to the movie because of that site. He really liked the movie by the way. More and more people use these sites to decide a purchase when money is tight. Me and my friends use sites such as these for purchases.
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I'm happy that you louie aren't aware of it or don't care about it, but this post is not about you or him.
But these reviews and such aren't about you either. I just don't get why you're taking every single bit of info regarding this album so personally.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:51 AM
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metacritic is like Rottentomatoes.com. People do use it and if you look at all the reviews from various albums it is important. I'm happy that you louie aren't aware of it or don't care about it, but this post is not about you or him.
I don't think anybody ever said that the post was about me or about Louie. All I said was that you are always dwelling on the negative. Sure, *some* people might consider metacritic or rottentomatoes before buying/seeing/listening to a CD/movie.

My main point was that you have been so obsessed with her reviews and sales...and there's no sense in getting so worked up over something so out of your control! Do you like In Your Dreams? If so, enjoy it! There's nothing that can be done about what others think now!
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But these reviews and such aren't about you either. I just don't get why you're taking every single bit of info regarding this album so personally.
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I don't think anybody ever said that the post was about me or about Louie. All I said was that you are always dwelling on the negative. Sure, *some* people might consider metacritic or rottentomatoes before buying/seeing/listening to a CD/movie.

My main point was that you have been so obsessed with her reviews and sales...and there's no sense in getting so worked up over something so out of your control! Do you like In Your Dreams? If so, enjoy it! There's nothing that can be done about what others think now!
I said post, not reviews. I do not know how to respond to apethetic posters. I posted this for people who do CARE how this album is recieved or is being PLAYED OUT. Sales do matter ALOT. So, do reviews.Small things seems to keep getting in the way, such as critical bias by a few. I'm happy that a lot of people do know the importance of these sites and just how wrong they can be. Most people just look at the score and don't even pay attention to the number of reviews. Metacritic is used in other reference sites about Stevie's career, such as wikepedia. I use wikepedia all the time to research careers, albums and movies. So do other people.
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Then if her album is truly as good as fans and the majority of reviewers believe that it is, the metacritic review should balance out to reflect that. If not, then I guess we are all delusional and the album is shiit.
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Then if her album is truly as good as fans and the majority of reviewers believe that it is, the metacritic review should balance out to reflect that. If not, then I guess we are all delusional and the album is shiit.
The point I believe that jondalar is trying to make in this thread is that her reviews on metacritic do not represent a fair balance.What I noticed is a huge gap between the more mainstream press reviews and the indie oriented.It is really as if these critics to man/woman are hearing a totally different album.Metacritic tends to favor the indie reviews omitting some of the mainstream ones so IMO it is skewed.
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I have not read a single review since this album dropped......or any album for that matter
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That's how I see it, anyways!
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Best thing said in this thread!

That's how I see it, anyways!
Of course! But the critic should also participate in the audience's enjoyment of the art form--as challenge, edification, insight, contextualization. I always want to KNOW MORE. The point is that these critics offer nothing helpful to the readers, just a fashionable hipster pose.
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I've dropped into some alternate reality where instead of facilitating on-topic
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the post. I realize the OP is not popular around here, but this new moderation
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metacritic is like Rottentomatoes.com. People do use it and if you look at all the reviews from various albums it is important. I'm happy that you louie aren't aware of it or don't care about it, but this post is not about you or him.
While I was not familiar with metacritic before you posted about it, I DO sometimes use review sites in trying to figure out what movie to go to--such as Rottentomatoes. I suspect you may be correct in people using that site before deciding to get music. With limitiations on the number of Benjamins that people have to drop on the arts and time, they may listen to critics.

On the other hand, for people like us, the devotee-fans, we got to see the sizzle reel, and we had the chance to review the streaming music on Rollingstone, but were more likely to get the album anyhow. Still, even on this site there were some few that said they wouldn't bother to get the album after having free access to it.

But on point, yes, I think there are those that look at the reviews and it does influence their purchases.
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