I'm Sorry but I Don't Love IYD (Yet)

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

The "Ghosts Are Gone" is Country just because it has some Slide Guitar in it? To me it sounds like a Rocker...The problem is that Country isn't country anymore...It's pop/Rock with a sprinkling of fiddles,mandolins and banjo's...And don't forget the required "Twang"...But hey that's my opinion...Since this album has been so long in the making plus the fact that we received numerous tweets on a daily basis from Dave Stewart for almost a year...Could it be that our expectations were more than could ever possibly be delivered?

I totally agree. Country today sounds like 75% of Bella Donna.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

Hi Jame! Btw you were in my dream last night, for real lol!
In regards to whether or not she wrote the lyrics and melodies, somebody posted this in another thread:

The songwriting credits are as follows:

Secret Love (Stevie)
For What It's Worth (Words: Stevie; Music: Mike Campbell)
In Your Dreams (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)
Wide Sargasso Sea (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)
New Orleans (Words: Stevie; Music: Neale Heywood)
Moonlight (Stevie)
Annabel Lee (Music: Stevie; Words adapted from the Edgar Allan Poe poem "Annabel Lee"; Interlude Waddy Wachtel)
Soldier's Angel (Stevie)
Everybody Loves You (Words: Stevie & Dave; Music: Dave)
Ghosts Are Gone (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)
You May Be The One (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)
Italian Summer (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)
Cheaper Than Free (Words: Stevie; Music: Dave Stewart)


Maybe I'm just taking this too literally and she did have something to do with the melodies. That's probably more than likely. In the end though I guess it doesn't matter - they are still her songs.

I'm confused...I have FWIW as being written by Nicks/Stewart and YMBTO by Nicks/Campbell...

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

I'm confused...I have FWIW as being written by Nicks/Stewart and YMBTO by Nicks/Campbell...

on your CD credits?

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

I can understand why some people have a certain expectation of what Stevie is supposed to be, both visually and musically. It's a conceptional ideal of what Stevie sometimes represents. It was an image that she has successfully constructed and mined for decades. Bella Donna is often cited as her zenith in that regard.

But consider this: She was in her early thirties when Bella Donna was made. It's now thirty-something years later. Think about how (if you're old enough) you have changed in that amount of time. Are you still dressing like you were then? Have your tastes and behaviors changed and evolved over time? That's part of life. If anything, Stevie's changes have been incremental, as compared to other artists who have really challenged their fans with drastic musical shifts. Stevie has been very consistent in her approaches.

For me, In Your Dreams shows that Stevie has finally made a (slight) shift in her approach. She's very late to the game, but it's still very Stevie. I don't understand all the senseless, hyper-critical blather going on here. Stevie has never been a critic's darling. Yet, now we are seeing the best reviews and praise she has ever had. You every right to express your opinions/dismay/dislike because it doesn't fit your concept of what you want Stevie to be. But Stevie is still Stevie, no matter what she does. She has progressed and moved forward. Apparentlyothers haven't. I, myself, have often complained that Stevie is stuck in the past, and I guess some fans want to keep her there.

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I think Itunes has done a lot of damage to the music industry, and how people process music. It's killed the entire experience of listening to body of work as a full entity. Now it's about instant gratifaction and dismissal of everything that doesn't "hit" you right away. So you immediately pick and choose what you like and don't like, hence statements like "I'm going to skip this or that song." In that self-righteous process you are actually denying yourself.

I skip nothing. I listen to albums as an entire experience. Sure, there are some parts I enjoy more than others, but it is what it is. Often I come to the realization, over time, that I can appreciate aspects of the work that I otherwise wouldn't. In other words, I'm not so quick to judge things. It's served me well in life, as it has with music.

Amen!!! I concur! Its a sweet collection from a mature, polished rock and roll singer...shes no longer strung out, overly medicated, and now in control of her life and career...youre not going to get the heavines of Doing The Best That I Can or The Nightmare...we've all grown up and changed...she has too

[Lee]

I can't really say if I like it or not because I haven't really heard it all. The only song that I've heard (& seen) it the free video from iTunes that was out, "Cheaper Than Free". I can't say that I thought it was all that great; it was just OK for me. I haven't even pre-ordered the CD. I'm still trying to decide whether to get it through B&N for the bonus track or just purchase it from iTunes or even Best Buy for just the 13 songs. And who does 13 songs anyway? Isn't that bad luck or something?

Lee

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Lee

I can't really say if I like it or not because I haven't really heard it all. The only song that I've heard (& seen) it the free video from iTunes that was out, "Cheaper Than Free". I can't say that I thought it was all that great; it was just OK for me. I haven't even pre-ordered the CD. I'm still trying to decide whether to get it through B&N for the bonus track or just purchase it from iTunes or even Best Buy for just the 13 songs. And who does 13 songs anyway? Isn't that bad luck or something?

Lee

not for her, isn't there 13 in a coven

[Ghosty]

Originally Posted by skuncles

"I always considered "Bella Donna" Stevie's masterpiece and it remains so. "In Your Dreams" is also a masterpiece but painted in a different style using different colors."
..... The woman who made Bella Donna is not the same woman who made In Your Dreams.

what a perfect way of describing it. i really like that.


i think it will help once i have the cd and not just hearing it on my little laptop, not very loud, distracted by other things. some songs caught me at first listen - like everybody loves you, moonlight, italian summer, cheaper than free, and a few more. soldiers angel i need to listen to a little more to feel it better. so far i hear a song or two, while balancing my checkbook online or answering an email, then get distracted by something, have to stop and go back later to listen to another few songs. once i get the cd i think i'll sit and savor it more like i usually do.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

on your CD credits?

No it was posted here (Somewhere)
"For What It's Worth" (I had to say it) If you are having problems with the RS feed of IYD...I have posted STREAMING ONLY!!! A few tracks off IYD At the NicksianNation...STREAMING ONLY..NO DOWNLOADS!!! And just for kicks I swapped out "Moonlight" for Lady From The Mountians and "Annabel Lee" for the Annabel Lee demo...

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

No it was posted here (Somewhere)
"For What It's Worth" (I had to say it) If you are having problems with the RS feed of IYD...I have posted STREAMING ONLY!!! A few tracks off IYD At the NicksianNation...STREAMING ONLY..NO DOWNLOADS!!! And just for kicks I swapped out "Moonlight" for Lady From The Mountians and "Annabel Lee" for the Annabel Lee demo...

those are the credits on the actual album, so don't pay attention to what you read before, pay attention to those

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by markolas

Like I said, it's interesting to see/hear what people's perceptions of "country" are. The only song that even hints at country, to me, is Cheaper Than Free. I'd describe most of the songs Louie mentioned as "roots rock," not country.

This is country:

Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is:



You are undoubtedly right that IYD songs are more roots rock than anything, though. I hear lots of references to Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, Rosanne Cash, etc. All those ladies really kinda focused in roots rock in it's various flavors: country, blues, jazz, etc. Had those women risen in the music scene today, they'd undoubtedly be labeled as Country, though. So would male classic rockers like the Eagles. Country has become much more pop/rock the past 2 decades.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is:



You are undoubtedly right that IYD songs are more roots rock than anything, though. I hear lots of references to Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, Rosanne Cash, etc. All those ladies really kinda focused in roots rock in it's various flavors: country, blues, jazz, etc. Had those women risen in the music scene today, they'd undoubtedly be labeled as Country, though. So would male classic rockers like the Eagles. Country has become much more pop/rock the past 2 decades.

"Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is" LMAO

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

"Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is" LMAO

Hell, Bon Jovi got a lot of video and radio play from country stations.

[mitzo]

Overall I like the album from the RS stream, but I have to agree with those who who are a bit underwhelmed by the songs. I find the vocals and production stellar but the songs are not standouts, overall. No real Stevie moments, just a lot of overly long relatively generic tunes. Love Soldier's Angel for its touch of real Stevieness, and Italian Summer for its outlandish over the top goofiness. In general, I wish she had pulled more out of the demo vault rather than cowriting anodyne stuff with Dave.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is:



You are undoubtedly right that IYD songs are more roots rock than anything, though. I hear lots of references to Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, Rosanne Cash, etc. All those ladies really kinda focused in roots rock in it's various flavors: country, blues, jazz, etc. Had those women risen in the music scene today, they'd undoubtedly be labeled as Country, though. So would male classic rockers like the Eagles. Country has become much more pop/rock the past 2 decades.

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

"Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is" LMAO

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Hell, Bon Jovi got a lot of video and radio play from country stations.

I was LMAO over the fact that Louie put up Little Richard...While we are on the subject of "Country" IYD may just have some Country Cross-Over songs on it...

[markolas]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Dude, if that's what country sounds like to you, I guess this is what Rock is:

Basically, yes.

You are undoubtedly right that IYD songs are more roots rock than anything, though. I hear lots of references to Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, Rosanne Cash, etc. All those ladies really kinda focused in roots rock in it's various flavors: country, blues, jazz, etc. Had those women risen in the music scene today, they'd undoubtedly be labeled as Country, though. So would male classic rockers like the Eagles. Country has become much more pop/rock the past 2 decades.

Which is why I don't consider contemporary country to be "country" at all. With a few exceptions, I don't listen to much country that was recorded after about 1975 - and my strong preference is for '50s and '60s country. I guess that explains why I don't hear country on IYD.