Sn Double Standard , Dont Get It

[gypsy4life]

Here goes:
I normally avoid posting on these types of threads, but, after my initial listen of IYD, and the pride I feel to be a fan of Stevie's, I must say a few things.

First of all, the first post makes no sense! I fail to see the "double standard" you are advertising. You may want to clarify your thought pattern if you are going to validly prove this point.

Second, I love Fleetwood Mac, I love every member, for their own talents. I own solo albums from almost every artist to have participated in this band's decades of success. Because Stevie has had more successs as a solo artist, does not mean the others are less talented. Lindsey is not exactly producing radio popular hits, but, I still love many of his solo efforts. I happen to relate to Stevie's music more than Lindsey's, as solo artists, but, that does not constitute any type of "double standard".

I am assuming, which is never safe to do, that your "double standard" point, is the issue with sales.
To this, I say- who cares?!!! With the current state of the record industry, and the sheer crap they promote, I could give a care less about who sales what! If you like it,- buy it- groove to it- and carry on!!

Last, I am very proud of Stevie on this new album, and I feel people who are only airing out frustrations about record sales of another artist should just leave us alone. Let us have this moment, and move on.

[tabruns]

I think Lindsey's albums are *amazing*.....it doesn't matter that they don't sell as well. Both Lindsey and Stevie are incredible artists. Truly they are in the "big leagues" as far as rock'n'roll artists go.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by David A

Hello All

I am going to try and be as gentle as I can on this. Bottom line, I am a LB & FM fan first and for most. Sadly, I have come the conclusion that LB will never sell records SOLO wise, regardless. LB just doesn’t have a solo following, which is fine by me.

Having said that, my question is, what kind of sales are we expecting for IYD ? as far as what needs to be reached to NOT make this a bomb and or disappointment. SN as a solo act , in my view is creditable, I mean, I don’t think she’s ever done anything past her 2nd solo record, BUT having said that, I can’t deny her actual numbers. So, she SHOULD be able to sell, however, I do realize that today’s music is drastically different, and I think with FM Say You Will album results, SALES wise made me even more realize this. But, I often think that SN fans are known for coming up with a bunch of excuses. And, since LB never sells, no one can say im making this a challenge, it’s not, LB can release the cure for cancer, and it won’t sell, which is fine. SN has a track record, all be it early on, of selling platinum, multi platinum albums, and I think that a bunch of you are already lining up excuses for when it does NOT sell, you can’t have your cake and eat it to, and I don’t know how ppl can say that LB doesn’t sell, and then when and if IYD doesn’t sell, you guys are going to use those same excuses. SN has sold, so why isn’t she expected to now?

Honestly, she should and I realistically expect her to debut IYD in the top 10 . Honestly, if she doesn’t debut in top 10, that’s not good, and I don’t get how anyone can say that a outside the top 10 is ok

Sales wise, I would say platinum and up is a freaking home run, and id be the first to congratulate her, even though I highly doubt it, Honestly, she HAS to at least go old. No way she sells 300,000 and ppl can say that’s a success.

It’s a double standard, for years, ppl would use the argument that SN solo career was better than LBs and many ppl would say look at the sales, which is fine, but NOW, people are preparing arguments for when IYD doesn’t sell, that it’s ok

U can’t have it both ways. So, what is the expectation here? And don’t use the critical acclaim argument, because no offense, SN SOLO career aint exactly known for critical acclaim, she has hung her hat on her sales, so honestly if she debuts at like #13 and ends up selling 300,000 copies, that is a bomb and or a failure.

I hope ppl understand what im saying. It just sounds like many excuses are being prepared. It’s funny because it sounds like many SN fans may end up using the LB excuse, “well, its critically acclaimed, and that’s all that matters”, which for LB is fine and true, because he hung his hat on hat. Bottom line, SN hung her hat on her solo sales, and she’s going to live or die (sales wise, no harm intended) by those sales, and I just don’t see how IYD can sell ENOUGH , as far as SN sales to be a success

I buy Lindsey's record consistently. I'm a follower. However, it's not like Lindsey is commercial. Some of his solo albums have been sort of wacko. Lindsey looks down on commercial success. He's pushed it away.

[tbaker3]

Originally Posted by mikephxaz

you're original discussion points lost all there credibility when you try compare nicks to twain or celine...stevie is a singer/songwriter celine is a vocalists and twain is none of the above... twain has struggled to even maintain any career...she, like dion rely on songwriters to piece together albums...celine's vocal abilities are legendary but you want to compare stevie's long hystory in the industry to those two? really? Wow....I'm starting to think that the others on this thread are right ....you intentions are just to pick a losing fight because Lindsey's solo career can't compare to steve's...just turn off your computer, pour yourself a glass of wine and put on Lindsey's masterpiece from Family Vacation....eeuuuuhhhhh

Had I been drinking something, it would have been coming out of my nose once I got to this line.

The award for best Zinger of the day goes to....