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Old 03-28-2011, 11:09 PM
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No need to worry. I have the link .
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/201...am-single-mp3/

Note: This may be a fake, according to some fans.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:40 AM
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Wow -- thanks for that! But it's not a fake. Though the vocoder sounds a bit dated in the amazon clip (which was only 64 bps), the other vocals are unmistakeably her, and they are different from the original Deeper Understanding. Since she's meticulous about keeping things under wraps, it had to be amazon's error to let this clip escape early (they apparently did this this week with a number of tracks).
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:23 AM
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Wow -- thanks for that! But it's not a fake. Though the vocoder sounds a bit dated in the amazon clip (which was only 64 bps), the other vocals are unmistakeably her, and they are different from the original Deeper Understanding. Since she's meticulous about keeping things under wraps, it had to be amazon's error to let this clip escape early (they apparently did this this week with a number of tracks).
I think that the vocals are the same.
Interesting points though. Also, do you think that the original version is playing in the background?
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:24 PM
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No, I don't! (he says gleefully)...

Here's a second clip that's been released...definitely a new vocal from Kate...and not a shred of vocoder to be found in this one. It sounds Joni-esque in it's playful background bits. What do you think?

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Old 03-30-2011, 12:36 PM
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^^Thanks for posting! Yes, that's not a vocoder, but it is some kind of voice-processing tool. My initial impression is why bother. Based on this clip, it doesn't sound like the song has been altered all that much, which pretty much sounded like So-era Peter Gabriel to begin with. And it's also an odd choice for a lead single. Very, very odd. I am suddenly not feeling so good about this project.
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:41 PM
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I have to admit that this second clip is giving me much more pause than the first one. The first one, with the robotic voice, was way out there and, uh...ballsy. This one not only sounds a lot more like the original production, but it also kind of detracts with her clipped pronunciation (understandin?) and the 'ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba's.

A tracklist was also found from a Swedish CD store, but this is not at all confirmed:

A Swedish CD store is listing the Director’s Cut tracklisting as follows. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED YET.

1 Flower of the Mountain
2 Song of Solomon
3 Lily
4 Deeper Understanding
5 The Red Shoes
6 This Woman’s Work
7 Moments of Pleasure
8 Never be Mine
9 Top of the City
10 And so is Love
11 Rubberband Girl


The thing that makes me feel like this could be the real tracklist is the title of track one. I suspect that Stephen Joyce (copyright-holder to the James Joyce estate) has allowed Kate to re-do "The Sensual World" with the original Joycean lyrics that he denied to her in 1989. If so, "Flower of the Mountain" are words that appear both in the Joyce original text (Molly Bloom's soliloquy) and in Kate's revamped lyrics for "The Sensual World."
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:52 PM
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I have to admit that this second clip is giving me much more pause than the first one. The first one, with the robotic voice, was way out there and, uh...ballsy. This one not only sounds a lot more like the original production, but it also kind of detracts with her clipped pronunciation (understandin?) and the 'ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba's.

A tracklist was also found from a Swedish CD store, but this is not at all confirmed:

A Swedish CD store is listing the Director’s Cut tracklisting as follows. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED YET.

1 Flower of the Mountain
2 Song of Solomon
3 Lily
4 Deeper Understanding
5 The Red Shoes
6 This Woman’s Work
7 Moments of Pleasure
8 Never be Mine
9 Top of the City
10 And so is Love
11 Rubberband Girl


The thing that makes me feel like this could be the real tracklist is the title of track one. I suspect that Stephen Joyce (copyright-holder to the James Joyce estate) has allowed Kate to re-do "The Sensual World" with the original Joycean lyrics that he denied to her in 1989. If so, "Flower of the Mountain" are words that appear both in the Joyce original text (Molly Bloom's soliloquy) and in Kate's revamped lyrics for "The Sensual World."
I really hope the James Joyce part is true so we can finally hear the song the way Kate envisioned it. If it's true, I'm so excited to hear if she changes up the music itself too, maybe using the original track as inspiration.

This is such an exciting time to be both a Stevie and a Kate fan!

P.S. I really hope that "Lily" is not on there. I've never cared for that song...
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:56 PM
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1 Flower of the Mountain
2 Song of Solomon
3 Lily
4 Deeper Understanding
5 The Red Shoes
6 This Woman’s Work
7 Moments of Pleasure
8 Never be Mine
9 Top of the City
10 And so is Love
11 Rubberband Girl[/I]

The thing that makes me feel like this could be the real tracklist is the title of track one. I suspect that Stephen Joyce (copyright-holder to the James Joyce estate) has allowed Kate to re-do "The Sensual World" with the original Joycean lyrics that he denied to her in 1989. If so, "Flower of the Mountain" are words that appear both in the Joyce original text (Molly Bloom's soliloquy) and in Kate's revamped lyrics for "The Sensual World."
Holy crickets, this is getting more bizarre by the minute. I thought "The Sensual World/Flower of the Mountain" was perfection. The way she carried the lines with such an innocence and the erotic mmmm... yes that she would use at the end of lines, just like Joyce. And when the Uillean pipes came in, it was just such a thing of beauty... what could she possibly do with it to make it better?

I am looking forward to a remake of "Moments of Pleasure" though. I think it needs to be just Kate and the piano, just like "Washing Machine." And "Top of the City" was my favorite song from TRS, so I'd love to hear a new version of it. But ending the album with "Rubberband Girl" sounds odd since it was the opening track on TRS.

Oh, Kate. Always keeping us guessing.
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rt @koolfresh:
In order to halt workplace productivity & bring down capitalism, the commies at NPR stream the new Kate Bush album. http://is.gd/wwxZ1G
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^^^Very disappointed by the "new" album. I don't think any of the songs are improved, most are not radically different enough to be meaningful. The cognitive dissonance (and total lack of urgency) make the once-moving Moments of Pleasure into a drag. There is so much wrong with this conception (and its execution) that it makes me worried that Kate Bush has lost "it"--interesting in the year Stevie produces her greatest ever solo album (heck, her first great solo album--one might even say In Your Dreams is worthy of The Red Shoes of 1993).
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:38 AM
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^^^Very disappointed by the "new" album. I don't think any of the songs are improved, most are not radically different enough to be meaningful. The cognitive dissonance (and total lack of urgency) make the once-moving Moments of Pleasure into a drag. There is so much wrong with this conception (and its execution) that it makes me worried that Kate Bush has lost "it"--interesting in the year Stevie produces her greatest ever solo album (heck, her first great solo album--one might even say In Your Dreams is worthy of The Red Shoes of 1993).
That sounds like a slam to me, not a compliment.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:36 PM
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That sounds like a slam to me, not a compliment.
Well it's a compliment to the Stevie of 2011 and the Kate Bush of 1993, but def a slam @ the Kate Bush of 2011

Ranking Kate & Stevie:

1. Hounds of Love
2. The Dreaming
3. The Kick Inside
4. Never For Ever
5. Sensual World
6. Lionheart
7. In Your Dreams
8. The Red Shoes
9. All other Stevie Nicks solo albums
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9. Ariel
10. Director's Cut
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Kate is my favorite solo artist but I must admit I'm not thrilled with Director's Cut.
I think it's because it's just songs we've all heard before (not the new versions of course, but still). If it was 100% new material, I'm sure I'd be more excited.
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I went over to NPR and listened and I really couldn't get through even the songs I love, but I did run right to my iPhone to listen to my favorites on Hounds of Love and The Red Shoes. I guess I won't be buying this album.
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I still have not purchased Director's Cut since there was a "shipping" problem and they never showed into my local FYE on Tuesday, or Wednesday for that matter. I didn't bother going in there today, figuring they wouldn't be there. But after reading some posts, maybe that's not such a bad thing. The reviews have been glowing but frankly, when I saw so many of my favorite songs on the tracklist, it kinda bothered me. I love those songs in the original form so I think hearing a reworked version may be somewhat disturbing, if not disappointing. I haven't heard any of the songs yet except Deeper Understanding so I can't really comment yet. Although interesting, the new version of DU doesn't compare to the original in my mind and seems, well unecessary and a waste of time.
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