The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Chit Chat
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 03-14-2011, 03:20 PM
Tango Tango is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,928
Default

The heartbreak in all of this is endless. You survive the earthquake, and manage to avoid getting swept away by the tsumami- then there is the danger of radiation due to the nuclear powerplant damage- there's no place to live, there's no food, no safe water, sanitation is destroyed- you look around at all the destruction, and meanwhile, bodies that you can't even recognize are washing up on shore. We haven't seen anything like this in our time. To read that the earth shifted it's axis and the country of Japan actually moved as the result of the upheaval is shocking. Their ability to make a living has been largely destroyed. And have we even forgotten Haaiti and Indonesia? How about Katrina here in the US. And Muammar Gaddafi is shooting and bombing people that oppose his rule? People in various countries are being sold as slaves. It really is an insane world we live in. The news is unbearable, isn't it? How much worse to live it. A lot of people are trying to pretend all of this horror isn't going on, largely because there isn't an easy "fix." But I think it's in the little things that we survive. Being kind to one another, looking out for one another, doing what you can to be ready for the miserable times, etc. It's trite but just being nice to each other is sometimes the saving grace in a society.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 03-14-2011, 03:21 PM
KarmaContestant's Avatar
KarmaContestant KarmaContestant is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,911
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango View Post
It's trite but just being nice to each other is sometimes the saving grace in a society.
Best thing I've heard all day.
__________________
I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 03-14-2011, 04:38 PM
Christopher's Avatar
Christopher Christopher is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,076
Default

Turbulent times indeed: Haiti, Gulf oil spill, Japan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya,Bahrain Saudi Arabia, terror attack Russia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nuclear Meltdowns, Financial Crisis affecting several countries, Higher than average unemployment or under employment in several developed countries, The accelerated unequal distribution of wealth not seen since before the Great Depression... & much much more!

And thus it brings me back to Stevie ~ Someone who has always taken me away ~ if only for a moment ~ from the serious reality we face in our day and age. For this I am grateful. Thank you ~Stevie Angel~

Last edited by Christopher; 03-14-2011 at 05:45 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 03-15-2011, 03:26 AM
Ghost_Tracker Ghost_Tracker is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,622
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David View Post
All hope is not lost. Preparation consists in teaching -- or training -- yourself to take specific action under certain circumstances.

If you're on a beach or in a marina & you feel shaking strong enough to knock you off your feet, consider that a sign that the quake is locally generated. Don't wait for Civil Defense sirens (there's even a chance that a tsunami would reach your location before the sirens sounded). Let the quake itself serve as your prompt to gain ground & elevation, either by running inland or by getting into a steel-reinforced concrete building that's at least three stories high -- a beachfront hotel, for example. Get into it! Get upstairs! Use the stairwell....

Above all, in a remotely generated tsunami, follow the instructions issued by the authorities. If they report that a tsunami is possible in your area in five hours' time, take them seriously.
From what I've been reading lately, it's unfortunately more complicated than that.
There's often a series of strong foreshocks - preliminary earthquakes (as there were in this case). Each or at least most of those foreshocks are strong; none of them generates a tsunami. So one would have to run inland, etc. 10 or more times in the 24 or 48 hours before the strong quake might or might not follow. Hey, I'm all for that but I doubt it would be possible to get large numbers of people to go along; and employers wouldn't tolerate it.
__________________
So if the ghosts are gone then doesn't that mean I'm kinda screwed??
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 03-15-2011, 03:31 AM
Ghost_Tracker Ghost_Tracker is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,622
Default

Just a thought that occurs to me - Everywhere I look in the last day or so, the lead story has been the nuke plant accidents - about which they've already said most of the radiation will probably be contained no matter what happens. Without wanting to badmouth the individual reporters, etc., the news groups as a whole have only one job: to help the advertisers sell cars and beer. So they've switched over to a related - but different - story that's more dramatic and less depressing. But that's not what really just happened here, is it. The real story is that a very large number of people have just been killed and hurt and they need our prayers and help. Including, if possible, financial donations and/or donation of blood, supplies etc.
__________________
So if the ghosts are gone then doesn't that mean I'm kinda screwed??

Last edited by Ghost_Tracker; 03-15-2011 at 04:03 AM..
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 03:31 AM
Ghost_Tracker
This message has been deleted by Ghost_Tracker. Reason: repeat posting
  #36  
Old 03-15-2011, 09:53 AM
David's Avatar
David David is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 15,185
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker View Post
From what I've been reading lately, it's unfortunately more complicated than that.
There's often a series of strong foreshocks - preliminary earthquakes (as there were in this case). Each or at least most of those foreshocks are strong; none of them generates a tsunami. So one would have to run inland, etc. 10 or more times in the 24 or 48 hours before the strong quake might or might not follow. Hey, I'm all for that but I doubt it would be possible to get large numbers of people to go along; and employers wouldn't tolerate it.
I know that foreshocks are a fact of megathrust quakes, but what does that have to do with the widely accepted recommendation to get off a beach as fast as you can if you experience an earthquake strong enough to make it difficult to stand?

What is all this about running inland ten times? I don't follow.

Please see the following:
http://www.uhh.hawaii.edu/~nat_haz/t...eachquakes.php

And actually, a foreshock of, say, M7 or M7+ can generate a local tsunami.
__________________

moviekinks.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 03-15-2011, 10:24 AM
DavidMn DavidMn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Minneapolis Minnesota
Posts: 13,872
Default

I was just reading that there is some radiation now leaking from one of the reactors that was shut down at the nuclear plant that´s had the explosions. Not good. David is it possible that the radiation would effect Tokyo or is it too far away?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 03-15-2011, 10:35 AM
KarmaContestant's Avatar
KarmaContestant KarmaContestant is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,911
Default

140,000 people told to seal themselves indoors

Japan crisis worse than Three Mile Island, experts say
No-fly zone imposed near stricken nuclear site

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42084187...fic/?GT1=43001
__________________
I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 03-15-2011, 12:23 PM
jannieC jannieC is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,468
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango View Post
The heartbreak in all of this is endless. You survive the earthquake, and manage to avoid getting swept away by the tsumami- then there is the danger of radiation due to the nuclear powerplant damage- there's no place to live, there's no food, no safe water, sanitation is destroyed- you look around at all the destruction, and meanwhile, bodies that you can't even recognize are washing up on shore. We haven't seen anything like this in our time. To read that the earth shifted it's axis and the country of Japan actually moved as the result of the upheaval is shocking. Their ability to make a living has been largely destroyed. And have we even forgotten Haaiti and Indonesia? How about Katrina here in the US. And Muammar Gaddafi is shooting and bombing people that oppose his rule? People in various countries are being sold as slaves. It really is an insane world we live in. The news is unbearable, isn't it? How much worse to live it. A lot of people are trying to pretend all of this horror isn't going on, largely because there isn't an easy "fix." But I think it's in the little things that we survive. Being kind to one another, looking out for one another, doing what you can to be ready for the miserable times, etc. It's trite but just being nice to each other is sometimes the saving grace in a society.
I am struggling to comprehend the enormity of this. Thank you for the bolded piece.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 03-15-2011, 02:06 PM
KarmaContestant's Avatar
KarmaContestant KarmaContestant is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,911
Default Japan quake upgraded to 9.0

U.S. Geological Survey Updates Magnitude of Japan’s 2011 Tohoku Earthquake to 9.0

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...le+Feedfetcher

Independently, Japanese seismologists have also updated their estimate of the earthquake's magnitude to 9.0. This magnitude places the earthquake as the fourth largest in the world since 1900 and the largest in Japan since modern instrumental recordings began 130 years ago.
__________________
I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 03-15-2011, 02:11 PM
HejiraNYC's Avatar
HejiraNYC HejiraNYC is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 4,834
Default

Wow. Just wow.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_835505.html
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-15-2011, 02:15 PM
KarmaContestant's Avatar
KarmaContestant KarmaContestant is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,911
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HejiraNYC View Post
My favorite reader comment:

Quote:
How long before FOX gives her her own show and calls her a "real" American?
__________________
I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-16-2011, 10:31 AM
skcin's Avatar
skcin skcin is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Behind your back, talking
Posts: 13,298
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HejiraNYC View Post
I won't get into her Ching Chong comment - I think some of you remember where THAT thread got us a few years back.

Seems to me that she's an ignorant blond bimbo. Seriously. If you don't want to live & study with people from other countries & learn about different cultures, then don't f*cking go to a university with one of the HIGHEST INTERNATIONAL STUDENT POPULATIONS IN THE NATION and then bitch about it on the INTERNET. Dumb broad.

And the "tsunami, or whatever..." comment? Nice.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 03-16-2011, 11:07 AM
HejiraNYC's Avatar
HejiraNYC HejiraNYC is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 4,834
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skcin View Post
I won't get into her Ching Chong comment - I think some of you remember where THAT thread got us a few years back.

Seems to me that she's an ignorant blond bimbo. Seriously. If you don't want to live & study with people from other countries & learn about different cultures, then don't f*cking go to a university with one of the HIGHEST INTERNATIONAL STUDENT POPULATIONS IN THE NATION and then bitch about it on the INTERNET. Dumb broad.

And the "tsunami, or whatever..." comment? Nice.
Agreed... let's not go there again.

If anything, I find her utter lack of sensitivity and empathy regarding the tsunami to be more disturbing than her racist views; at least she is being transparent about her feelings. But she is, like, dead inside if she can't relate to people being concerned about loved ones at home. Obviously she did not get the memo regarding UCLA's acronym: U C a Lot of Asians.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 03-16-2011, 11:13 AM
KarmaContestant's Avatar
KarmaContestant KarmaContestant is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,911
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skcin View Post
I won't get into her Ching Chong comment - I think some of you remember where THAT thread got us a few years back.
I wasn't involved in that, but this reminds me of a Margaret Cho skit that I wish I could find a clip of:

"Margaret Cho: There was this girl, she was like 13, and she was looking at my poster and she said "Ew! Who wants to go see the chew-chow-ching-chong lady? I'm not gonna go see the chew-chow-ching-chong lady. Are you gonna go see the chew-chow-ching-chong lady?"
[as herself again, Margaret puts on a dangerous expression]
Margaret Cho: I'm gonna go see the chew-chow-ching-chong lady!
[as girl again, turns]
Margaret Cho: AAAAH!

I LOVE Margaret. I had the pleasure of meeting her in Denver this past summer - and she is truly a joy to be in the same room with. She did a meet & greet, and she was far more nervous than any of us meeting her.



__________________
I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


1970s Pop, Bob Brunning picture

1970s Pop, Bob Brunning

$5.40



1970s Pop - Hardcover By Brunning, Bob - GOOD picture

1970s Pop - Hardcover By Brunning, Bob - GOOD

$3.40



Fleetwood Mac: The First 30 Years, Bob Brunning picture

Fleetwood Mac: The First 30 Years, Bob Brunning

$6.91



Bob Brunning Sound Trackers Music Series Hardcover 6 Book Lot Pop, Metal, Reggae picture

Bob Brunning Sound Trackers Music Series Hardcover 6 Book Lot Pop, Metal, Reggae

$59.99



Heavy Metal by Bob Brunning - Hardcover 1999 - VERY GOOD picture

Heavy Metal by Bob Brunning - Hardcover 1999 - VERY GOOD

$8.44




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved