Secret Love Radio Remix

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

What was that? Was that the sound of a table turning?

I think that table turned a long time ago.The last truly superb prodction job of a Stevie Nicks song by LB was Gypsy..of course no one has touched the work that they did on the 3 great Fleetwood Mac studio albums of the second half of the 1970sJudging from Secret Love I think Dave and Glen may "get" her better than any of her producers since the early 1980s ..only John Shanks would be close IMO.So I have VERY high hopes for this album.

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Judging from Secret Love I think Dave and Glen may "get" her better than any of her producers since the early 1980s ..only John Shanks would be close IMO.

I guess I'm in the minority here but I actually liked what Sheryl Crow did with "Candlebright" and "Sorcerer". I absolutely love both those songs (hence my screen name )

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I guess I'm in the minority here but I actually liked what Sheryl Crow did with "Candlebright" and "Sorcerer". I absolutely love both those songs (hence my screen name )

My favorite Sheryl produced song is "If you Ever did Believe" I also like the two you mentioned .I just think the John Shanks songs on TISL were the most well produced for her style and Sheryl admitted she did not know what to do with "Fall From Grace"

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

My favorite Sheryl produced song is "If you Ever did Believe" I also like the two you mentioned .I just think the John Shanks songs on TISL were the most well produced for her style and Sheryl admitted she did not know what to do with "Fall From Grace"

Totally! There's no question that Shanks was the better producer, but I was just trying to show a little love for Sheryl as well.

I absolutely ADORE "If You Ever Did Believe" also!

But back to the topic, I think this is a really cool remix of "Secret Love"! Kudos!!!

[Christopher]

The consensus on TheLedge back when TISL was released was that John Shanks productions were by far the favorites on the record. And I still agree all these years later. While I liked the Sheryl Crow produced tracks. They didn't blow me away. I can only imagine how much better Candlebright and Sorcerer would have been if John Shanks had a stab at them before Sheryl did. "Its Only Love" is my favorite Sheryl Crow contribution on TISL overall. The production was beautifully understated, and Stevie's voice really shined on that track.

I predict that Dave Stewart & don't forget Glen Ballard, will be regarded as Stevie's best producer(s) since Jimmy Iovine once In You Dreams is unveiled. To my ears the production on Secret Love unites the best of her 80's sound with the guitar oriented sound of her last recordings.

[markolas]

Which were the TISL songs John Shanks produced?

There's always been a lot of Sheryl Crow hate on this board, and I'm not sure why. I was a SC fan before I was a SN fan. Tho I don't really follow Sheryl anymore. I loved Sorcerer & Candlebright, too. Two of the best songs on the album, and they were definitely improvements over the demos (were they demos or outtakes?).

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by markolas

Which were the TISL songs John Shanks produced?

There's always been a lot of Sheryl Crow hate on this board, and I'm not sure why. I was a SC fan before I was a SN fan. Tho I don't really follow Sheryl anymore. I loved Sorcerer & Candlebright, too. Two of the best songs on the album, and they were definitely improvements over the demos (were they demos or outtakes?).

John Shanks arranged/produced as well as played guitar/keyboards on Trouble In Shangri-la, Planets Of The Universe, Fall From Grace & Everyday.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I guess I'm in the minority here but I actually liked what Sheryl Crow did with "Candlebright" and "Sorcerer". I absolutely love both those songs (hence my screen name )

I will give SC her due on "Candlebright." I think the whole psychedelic Indian/Middle Eastern vibe with the mandolin(?) was a brilliant touch without being in-your-face about it, e.g., using a sitar. Other than that, I think her production style is just not particularly interesting. And the thing I notice most about SC-produced songs is that, for whatever reason, she doesn't seem to be able to get a (relatively) good vocal out of Stevie. In all of the SC-produced songs, including the Practical Magic tunes, Stevie sounds a bit hoarse and her tone is just not... quite right; perhaps it's the way her vocals are recorded or engineered? Or perhaps SC is so in awe of Stevie that she is afraid to tell Stevie to do another, better take? Whenever I hear these songs, I can't help but think that I've heard Stevie sound so much better live or on other recordings.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I will give SC her due on "Candlebright." I think the whole psychedelic Indian/Middle Eastern vibe with the mandolin(?) was a brilliant touch without being in-your-face about it, e.g., using a sitar. Other than that, I think her production style is just not particularly interesting. And the thing I notice most about SC-produced songs is that, for whatever reason, she doesn't seem to be able to get a (relatively) good vocal out of Stevie. In all of the SC-produced songs, including the Practical Magic tunes, Stevie sounds a bit hoarse and her tone is just not... quite right; perhaps it's the way her vocals are recorded or engineered? Or perhaps SC is so in awe of Stevie that she is afraid to tell Stevie to do another, better take? Whenever I hear these songs, I can't help but think that I've heard Stevie sound so much better live or on other recordings.

Agree agree agree. IMO Sheryl messed up TISL. The production does not bring out Stevie's vocals and the arrangements and instrumentation are trying too hard in a bad direction, it all sounds too .... harsh?

[Josh2003]

I feel like Sheryl's contributions were left a little too....stripped-down, I think. In some instances, it comes off perfectly (It's Only Love, If You Ever Did Believe)...for others, namely Sorcerer, it kind of falls flat. Ten years have gone by, and I feel like Sorcerer is still missing some sort of oopmh to it.

I prefer the Shanks tracks because, I think, they have more life to them...but they are *almost* crossing over the line into "overproduced" territory.

Which brings me to one major problem that I have with TISL...I love all of the songs individually, but, like Say You Will, it feels like two different albums: the Sheryl Songs vs. the Shanks Songs.

[Chain of Chains]

I can't get it to download for me. I just get a bunch of Chinese pop-up ads. What am I doing wrong???

Thanks!

(Really looking forward to hearing it )