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Old 11-23-2010, 09:59 AM
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"Travis" posted a remix version of this video, using an alternate mix of the track, a few months ago. It was excellent - better than the original! Unfortunately it seems the video was taken down. Here's the thread:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=44319
Thanks blinker! I don't think the mix itself is better than the orig or single remix, but my friend JNX did an excellent job on the video editing. I'm gonna reupload it today when I get home - be on the lookout :-).
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:19 AM
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Agreed - the only alt choice of the Street Angel songs chosen for Enchanted that I like better is "Rose Garden." Her vocal seems less "nasally" and more clear, but the lackluster arrangements on the other songs do not do them justice. BD sounds too wimpy and they even cut out the awesome guitar ending, stupid. The single remix of Blue Denim is top notch.
The Enchanted mixes are the wimpy 1993 original mixes. I think someone at Atlantic just grabbed them without thinking.

"Destiny" is 30 seconds shorter on the original mix, ugh. And the drums sound cheap. "Street Angel" is improved with Waddy's eerie 1994 guitar. "Blue Denim" wakes up and ROCKS in its album version mix (and even MORE in the Single Remix)!!! That flaccid original mix is sad.

"Rose Garden" ~ I like the one little extra "Oh no" on the original/Enchanted mix, but prefer the music on the real Street Angel with the added guitars and fuller sound.

Stevie & Co. did a LOT to improve Street Angel, JIMO!
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:51 PM
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:55 PM
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Okay all these versions is confusing the hell out of me! I prefer the mix from the crystal visions DVD of Blue denim, whatever mix that is or was. When I got the street angel cd, I was like, "This version is awful, its missing too much, don't have that extra umph!
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:10 PM
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The music for the video of "Blue Denim" is the Single Remix, remixed by Chris Lord-Alge, on promo CD-single. Very different, huh? And MUCH better!!!
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:21 PM
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:s I'm starting to understand why people keep accusing her of singing through her nose in her latter years. I suppose it must have alot to do with the hole in her septum, as well as the strain she's put her voice through with her pitch straining renditions of Rhiannon.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:31 PM
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Are you sure you aren't confusing the Street Angel CD version with the version on 'Enchanted'? To my ears, the single version and the SA version are very close. The 'Enchanted' mix is the one that sounds vacant and dull.
So there's 3 versions of "Blue Denim" - the album version, the single version and the Enchanted box set version? I first bought the Crystal Vision DVD and love that version of "Blue Denim" - which version is that? Later on I got the Street Angel CD all excited about having Blue Denim on CD. Yet when I listened to it, something was missing. I thought a channel had dropped out or my speakers weren't working right. Anyway, when I wanna hear "Blue Denim" I put in the DVD.
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:12 AM
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So there's 3 versions of "Blue Denim" - the album version, the single version and the Enchanted box set version? I first bought the Crystal Vision DVD and love that version of "Blue Denim" - which version is that? Later on I got the Street Angel CD all excited about having Blue Denim on CD. Yet when I listened to it, something was missing. I thought a channel had dropped out or my speakers weren't working right. Anyway, when I wanna hear "Blue Denim" I put in the DVD.
The version you hear in the video is the single remix, it's almost identical to the album version on Street Angel, but it just has a little more kick to it, a little more "UMPH" behind it ... the one on the Enchanted boxed set is stripped down - doesn't do the song justice. I had my friend edit the video to it just for the sake of having something different - while the mix may be dull, his video editing skills are da bomb :-)
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:43 AM
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The only place I saw it besides the shack was
at the end of an Entertainment Tonight show.
That's exactly where I saw the video back in '94... and I only caught the interview by accident late at night. I remember how shocked I was at Stevie's appearance on Entertainment Tonight... and how gravelly her speaking voice had become. In fact, I'd become convinced afterwards that Stevie was the voice for Patty and Selma on the Simpsons.



The only Stevie I'd known before that was the photos I'd had on Rumours and Bella Donna... and the archival footage from the Disney Fleetwood Mac: Going Home documentary (which Stevie did vocal, not camera commentary for). It was like the big mystery to me at the time what "modern" Stevie looked like. Looking back now, I think she looks great. At the time, her appearance was pretty sobering.

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Old 11-24-2010, 05:09 AM
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I remember how shocked I was at Stevie's appearance on Entertainment Tonight... and how gravelly her speaking voice had become. In fact, I'd become convinced afterwards that Stevie was the voice for Patty and Selma on the Simpsons.



Looking back now, I think she looks great. At the time, her appearance was pretty sobering.
Patty and Selma, or Stevie Nicks and Fran Lebowitz?

Louie, I'm curious to what changed your mind about
her appearance? It makes me sad to look at her during
that time period.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:38 PM
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The version you hear in the video is the single remix, it's almost identical to the album version on Street Angel, but it just has a little more kick to it, a little more "UMPH" behind it ... the one on the Enchanted boxed set is stripped down - doesn't do the song justice. I had my friend edit the video to it just for the sake of having something different - while the mix may be dull, his video editing skills are da bomb :-)
I think I got it now, Travis. The video you posted is of the Enchanted mix set to the music video. The original music video is of the single mix. Finally the album version is well the album version.

My favorite is the single mix/original video. The Enchanted mix is not much different from the album version, except for the delayed first verse. Both are missing too much, just seems to be drums, bass, and a okay vocal. Meanwhile the single mix kicks butt with more guitar and a stronger more intense vocals from Stevie. Especially towards the end...!
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:04 PM
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I think I got it now, Travis. The video you posted is of the Enchanted mix set to the music video. The original music video is of the single mix. Finally the album version is well the album version.

My favorite is the single mix/original video. The Enchanted mix is not much different from the album version, except for the delayed first verse. Both are missing too much, just seems to be drums, bass, and a okay vocal. Meanwhile the single mix kicks butt with more guitar and a stronger more intense vocals from Stevie. Especially towards the end...!
You got it Mac! I guess after hearing the single remix (original video), even the orig. CD version seems dull, but it really isn't as "dull" as the one on Enchanted. I do find the orig. version (on Street Angel) closer to the single remix, but again, just with not as much "punch" behind it. The single remix is my fave as well. I do love what JNX did though with the video I posted. He really captures the heart and feel of the music - watch it again, the parts where he added certain special effects ... it goes with the music so well.
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Patty and Selma, or Stevie Nicks and Fran Lebowitz?

Louie, I'm curious to what changed your mind about
her appearance? It makes me sad to look at her during
that time period.


More than anything, I look back at this era and just see passion and lack of fear. Stevie would never do anything kooky like braid her hair into a giant poodle-inspired poof these days . Even though she's heavy in the picture above, she wasn't afraid to put on a quirky witchy frock like that and go to a movie premier (the above pic was from the Interview With A Vampire premier). I just love all the big chunky necklaces she wore during the SA era too. She just seemed fearless with her appearance and performances back then, and that's what I liked so much.

Here's an example of her doing something totally different with her hair/look... and I dig it:



Here's an example of the big necklaces and such she wore back then which I LOVE:



And her performances were just so passionate on the Street Angel tour... it's like she woke up ANGRY after sleeping for a decade under Klonopin's spell:



^It's like the Rock A Little tour all over again... minus the mountains of coke!
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:58 PM
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Louie, I love your detailed descriptions! Kinda how I feel about that time as well.

I have to say, front row in Dallas in September 1994 at the last Street Angel concert, Stevie was on fire in a way I have rarely seen in her entire career. Just amazing! "Rhiannon" was so exciting and fierce! I was a little bummed at how subdued "Rhiannon" became 3 years later with The Dance tour, even though "Gold Dust Woman" and "Silver Springs" had that energy and anger!
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I was so shocked by Stevie's appearance... the big hair... she just looked like she'd fallen off her rocker . Nowadays, I look at this video and think how fantastic she looks here.
This is SO true! I feel this way about the inauguration performance too. I was so terribly shocked to see her. Now, when I look at that performance, I think she looks kind of cute.
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