Fan Club Member Banned

[jwys_soapbox]

Well, I got banned from the Mick Fleecewood Message Board. All I did was express my upsetment about the deletion of threads and posts that criticize the fan club. And I was very respectful in doing so. I'm so upset. If anyone cares, please start a thread over there to ask why I was banned. Changes need to be made there and if bannings are done without recognition let alone explanation, changes will never occur because the right people will never see the problem.

Thanks for reading this,

John

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Well I was banned too. And they must have banned my ISP as I can't even get to the board from my computer but I can from my friends. An explanation would be nice

Pip

[nae]

Who cares about that STUPID board anyway. It is so weird over there! After everything that has happened aren't you glad you were banned?

Nae

[DownOnRodeo]

I cant believe you guys were banned. What a joke!

And you're probably right Nae - it's not that big a loss.

So what's their masterplan - to surround themseves with just the brainwashed cronies with their dreams about Mick Fleetwood and the Knight in shining armour with his tidbits of delayed information and monthly fan scams.
Bleuh!!

[WelshWitchPMD]

Did they send you an email to explain why you were banned? I was banned a few times before but it was an error. I know that it happened to a few people in error. Can you get in to PM the admin? If not maybe I can PM them for you to make sure it is just an error.
If it is not an error I don't know why they would ban all of you just to voice your opinion. Doesn't sound like a BB that you would want to belong to anyway. Hardly a fan friendly place.

[ThePenguin]

The number of posts that are being deleted and the frequent banning that is going on over there is really amazing. Keeping in mind that The Penguin and The Ledge are in no way responsible for or affiliated with the FM Fan Club (as you all know), I suggest that it might be helpful if we organized a FAQ here (where it won't be deleted) listing the main points about what was promised from the fan club, what was actually delivered, and what could be done about it. This is a very emotional issue for many as the seats that were advertised were not delivered and due to the costs and distance involved, most fans cannot go to multiple shows. I saw many posts (before they were deleted) in which people stated that they were going to dispute the charges of the fanclub with their credit card companies-- the preparation of an organized FAQ might help these individuals by clarifying the issues.

- Marty

[sara1998]

That is aweful. I am really sorry to the fans who have been banned from there over the first amendment rights. What Mick has let happen to that board/website is tasteless, and I for one have a new found lack of respect for him. Completely tasteless... Thank you, Marty, for letting us be opinionated here. It makes for healthy fan discussions...

Maria

[darklinensuit]

I'm a member but I've never visited the BB. I joined for the tickets & am disappointed, of course. Has the Fan Club posted a policy statement that it reserves the right to ban what TPTB view as flamers? (Not that it sounds like you really flamed, anyway.) If not, couldn't banned posters make the case that since they paid money for a year's worth of the beneits of membership, and they were not made aware of banning as a consequence at the time of signing up, they should not be banned? Just a thought (perhap a naive one). - Jake

[Mad4stevie]

This whole banning thing is CRAP!!

I just registered over there on Thursday when the presale debacle started - and it is really nuts. I mean NUTS. I have noticed so many posts deleted. Even my posts regarding my invalid password have been deleted. They are even deleting their own fan club emails that are posted on there by members - what is up with that?!?

They just keep digging themselves a bigger hole - somebody step up to the damn plate already and offer something to those who were screwed!!

Thank God our society doesn't function like this for the most part - its sad that some do . . .

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I'm a member but I've never visited the BB. I joined for the tickets & am disappointed, of course. Has the Fan Club posted a policy statement that it reserves the right to ban what TPTB view as flamers? (Not that it sounds like you really flamed, anyway.) If not, couldn't banned posters make the case that since they paid money for a year's worth of the beneits of membership, and they were not made aware of banning as a consequence at the time of signing up, they should not be banned? Just a thought (perhap a naive one). - Jake

That is a good thought for those who joined... but I didn't join the fanclub

Pip

[dissention]

Hi everyone, first post

I too was banned from Mick's board (my username over there was poopsiy) after I expressed quite a lot of disgust and pointed out what I saw to be merciless ass-kissing. It is truly apalling over there! If they don't like one of your posts, they take away your star count (or what Sara, http://www.sararhiannon.com , refers to as being "de-starred"...hehe!), or they will ban you. There are a couple of real schmucks over there...they haven't found the right doctors yet who'll permanently sew their lips to the Knight's ass cheeks. The news over there is second hand, we get it from various sources like this place MONTHS before it's posted on Mick's board. I feel so bad for those who paid the money for the fan club! It can't be much of a comfort for them to know that the Knight runs the fan club! My advice would be to contest the charge on your credit card, that way, Knight and Mick won't see a dime.

They have also prevented Sara from posting her website address, even though the Knight himself linked to her mp3 of Say You Will WITHOUT asking her permission, causing her bandwith to go through the roof. Yet he lets everyone else post links to THEIR sites. That is messed up folks!

I have lost all respect for Mick. He puts dollar signs on everything and it's really beginning to turn off FM fans. Anyone else notice that the MF fan club turned into the FM fan club? He must've wised up to the fact that he's only a mediocre drummer in a band that is otherwise full of musical geniuses. It's a common fact that he hatched up the meet and greet idea and all these others schemes to extort the die-hard fans who pay for everything he does including his bad real-estate ventures. He should be ashamed of himself.

Another thing that bothers me about that place is how Knight likes to speak for FM even though he only runs Mick's site (half-assed, too!). You'll never see Lindsey or Stevie try to insult their fans by posting these extortion attempts on their sites! But at the same time, they need to know what is going on or it's going to cost them some fans.

Anyways, good luck to everyone in getting their fan club money back and I'm sorry for everyone who got banned. take pride in knowing that you got banned because you weren't kissing the Knight's medieval ass.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally posted by dissention
Hi everyone, first post

I too was banned from Mick's board (my username over there was poopsiy) after I expressed quite a lot of disgust and pointed out what I saw to be merciless ass-kissing. It is truly apalling over there! If they don't like one of your posts, they take away your star count (or what Sara, http://www.sararhiannon.com , refers to as being "de-starred"...hehe!), or they will ban you. There are a couple of real schmucks over there...they haven't found the right doctors yet who'll permanently sew their lips to the Knight's ass cheeks. The news over there is second hand, we get it from various sources like this place MONTHS before it's posted on Mick's board. I feel so bad for those who paid the money for the fan club! It can't be much of a comfort for them to know that the Knight runs the fan club! My advice would be to contest the charge on your credit card, that way, Knight and Mick won't see a dime.

They have also prevented Sara from posting her website address, even though the Knight himself linked to her mp3 of Say You Will WITHOUT asking her permission, causing her bandwith to go through the roof. Yet he lets everyone else post links to THEIR sites. That is messed up folks!

I have lost all respect for Mick. He puts dollar signs on everything and it's really beginning to turn off FM fans. Anyone else notice that the MF fan club turned into the FM fan club? He must've wised up to the fact that he's only a mediocre drummer in a band that is otherwise full of musical geniuses. It's a common fact that he hatched up the meet and greet idea and all these others schemes to extort the die-hard fans who pay for everything he does including his bad real-estate ventures. He should be ashamed of himself.

Another thing that bothers me about that place is how Knight likes to speak for FM even though he only runs Mick's site (half-assed, too!). You'll never see Lindsey or Stevie try to insult their fans by posting these extortion attempts on their sites! But at the same time, they need to know what is going on or it's going to cost them some fans.

Anyways, good luck to everyone in getting their fan club money back and I'm sorry for everyone who got banned. take pride in knowing that you got banned because you weren't kissing the Knight's medieval ass.

Good to see you here! Tell me... was your IP address banned? I can't even access the board from my own computer so I am assuming they banned my IP address

Pip

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally posted by ThePenguin
The number of posts that are being deleted and the frequent banning that is going on over there is really amazing. Keeping in mind that The Penguin and The Ledge are in no way responsible for or affiliated with the FM Fan Club (as you all know), I suggest that it might be helpful if we organized a FAQ here (where it won't be deleted) listing the main points about what was promised from the fan club, what was actually delivered, and what could be done about it. This is a very emotional issue for many as the seats that were advertised were not delivered and due to the costs and distance involved, most fans cannot go to multiple shows. I saw many posts (before they were deleted) in which people stated that they were going to dispute the charges of the fanclub with their credit card companies-- the preparation of an organized FAQ might help these individuals by clarifying the issues.

- Marty

Thankyou Marty

Pip

[Mad4stevie]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dissention
[B]
Another thing that bothers me about that place is how Knight likes to speak for FM even though he only runs Mick's site (half-assed, too!). You'll never see Lindsey or Stevie try to insult their fans by posting these extortion attempts on their sites! But at the same time, they need to know what is going on or it's going to cost them some fans.

Hi, dissention - welcome to the Ledge!

I agree totally - it bugs me that the Knight likes to speak for FM even though he is really only involved with Mick's site. Stevie and Lindsey have too much integrity to be involved in something like this - they would be disgusted. I don't blame them or FM, for that matter, I blame INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT. FM is way too busy getting ready for the tour and doing PR right now, and I understand that. But some people will be so angry that they will shift the blame to FM and it will cost them some fans.

I just hope that this is not a foreshadowing of the tour that is to come . . .

[dissention]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Good to see you here! Tell me... was your IP address banned? I can't even access the board from my own computer so I am assuming they banned my IP address

Pip

Good to see you here, too, Pip! I was really apalled to read that you of all people were banned. You always got your point across very well (with a great biting sense of humour!) and very politely. Knight must've thought you were brainwashing the other European fans from joining the fan club! LOL I can access the board but when I click on a thread, it says I am banned so I can't view it. Try cleaning out your Temporary Internet Files and then going back to the board. Maybe that'll help Good luck, Pip!