Sacramento Concert Cancelled

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by LukeA

If Stevie (or any member of FM, for that matter) said she doesn't want to/can't perform, the show(s) in question would be canceled/postponed. Its not like there's a vetting process that's needed to validate claims/feelings.

Live Nation might be pissed, but ultimately (in light of their long term/far reaching agreement) needs to accept it as reality.

Can you imagine Live Nation subjecting Stevie to a medical vetting process? The lawyers would be on the next available private jet.

[David]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

It was actually fashionable for rock critics to bash La Nicks for many years and a good review for her was much more the exception than the rule.So it is no surprise at all that Brian was able to produce a plethora of negative reviews for her during Fleetwood Mac's prime.This trend dramatically reversed itself at the time of The Dance..which leads me to believe that the recent negative reviews are more unbiased and alot of fans seem to echo them..This was not the case back in the day ,the critics disliked her but we fans seemed to see a different show totally.

She had a (relatively) small number of supporters in the rock press in the old days -- guys who genuinely seemed to consider her a great vocalist & performer. Think of Ken Tucker (whose view of Fleetwood Mac greatly resembled my own), Steve Morse, Howard Cohen, Parke Puterbaugh, John Rockwell, Dennis Hunt (who named Stevie's Fox Wilshire show the best pop-rock show in Los Angeles that year), Robert Hilburn (who called Fleetwood Mac's 1982 benefit the best pop-rock show in Orange County that year), & Noel Coppage (who summed up "Tusk" as "perhaps not a great album but a fascinating parade of sounds").

And then there were the guys who loved Fleetwood Mac but who felt Stevie was often the weak link: Steve Pond, David Gans, etc.

Still others considered her a vocalist to be reckoned with but not a decent songwriter: Steve Simels, for example (who called her a belter in the tradition of Brenda Lee but a mooncalf as a songwriter).

There were even writers -- like Sylvie Simmons -- who didn't have any artistic respect for Nicks but who thought she was a warm, generous, and honest human being.

One critic who I felt really exemplified an almost total intolerance for Nicks as a songwriter AND a singer was Joel Selvin. In concert & album reviews he wrote from around 1980 to around 1987, he had practically no admiration for Fleetwood Mac's style, & considered Stevie a dip.

But to me it's important not to label any negative review as "bashing." That's a loaded term that doesn't mean "negative review." It expresses something personal & artistically unwarranted. Too many ledgies, unfortunately, call too many negative comments "bashing." Bashing is a violent term that should be reserved for specific examples of either character assassination or grossly distorted & exaggerated negativity, usually of a highly personal nature.

Of course, the distinction is very subjective, to a degree. But a comment from a critic (or a ledgie) that Stevie Nicks "lacked passion & commitment in her performance Sunday night" isn't bashing in any way, shape, or form.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by David

But to me it's important not to label any negative review as "bashing." That's a loaded term that doesn't mean "negative review." It expresses something personal & artistically unwarranted. Too many ledgies, unfortunately, call too many negative comments "bashing." Bashing is a violent term that should be reserved for specific examples of either character assassination or grossly distorted & exaggerated negativity, usually of a highly personal nature.

Of course, the distinction is very subjective, to a degree. But a comment from a critic (or a ledgie) that Stevie Nicks "lacked passion & commitment in her performance Sunday night" isn't bashing in any way, shape, or form.

Point taken..but you have to admit there are a few very legit critics who do indeed take their criticisms of a performer to such a level ..For example one of your favorites John Simon's reviews of Barbra Streisand's films in the 1970s .Really those have to be seen to be believed.

[TheScoop]

Originally Posted by kak125

i am so torn now if i want to go to the ac show on june 13th. i really want to see no doubt and have never seen them live but you never know how much longer fm will be touring.

Having seen both Fleetwood Mac and No Doubt already this year, do yourself a favor and go to the No Doubt show. You'll pay half as much for tickets for a concert ten times more entertaining from a frontwoman who still genuinely appreciates her fans and puts on a kickass show.

[BellaDonna93]

Originally Posted by FMlex

She does look rockin' for that song.
However, it sucks that she didn't do the high "taaake me hoome" part. She kind of did something else strange for that.

She does seem more mobile in those shoes so that's good! Whatever it takes to put on a decent, comfortable show!

I also think that this song was great! I love to see last 1 minute or something like that And well, is it that important that she wears the boots??? No, the most important thing is that she feels comfertable, right

I think as many of you does, that she is sick...like fever or something like that. Or it could be something that has to do with her hip...???...No, it was the boots, I think. You can imagine, wearing the boots "all summer long" and winter in over 30 years...

However, the chain keep us together, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about this right now

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by TheScoop

Having seen both Fleetwood Mac and No Doubt already this year, do yourself a favor and go to the No Doubt show. You'll pay half as much for tickets for a concert ten times more entertaining from a frontwoman who still genuinely appreciates her fans and puts on a kickass show.

I SOOO badly would love to go to see No Doubt myself, and have to check to see if they are coming to Houston! I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Gwen Stefani.. and have heard she rocks!

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

I SOOO badly would love to go to see No Doubt myself, and have to check to see if they are coming to Houston! I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Gwen Stefani.. and have heard she rocks!

I love No Doubt, and think they are a great band..however their performance on American Idol, 1 or 2 weeks ago was seriously lacking. Well, the band was good, but Gwen was completely off. They performed "Just a Girl," and while I had high hopes for their "comeback" it sure didn't make me want to go buy tickets for their show. She pretty much talked/yelled her way through the song...now I'm sure they're rusty from being apart for some time, and maybe it was one bad performance (although they sounded similarly out of tune on the Today Show recently too)..I don't know, didn't work for me live.

[RockAlot]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

I love No Doubt, and think they are a great band..however their performance on American Idol, 1 or 2 weeks ago was seriously lacking. Well, the band was good, but Gwen was completely off. They performed "Just a Girl," and while I had high hopes for their "comeback" it sure didn't make me want to go buy tickets for their show. She pretty much talked/yelled her way through the song...now I'm sure they're rusty from being apart for some time, and maybe it was one bad performance (although they sounded similarly out of tune on the Today Show recently too)..I don't know, didn't work for me live.

Love No Doubt! I too thought the same about the performance on American Idol, just wasnt up to par.

[kak125]

Originally Posted by RockAlot

Love No Doubt! I too thought the same about the performance on American Idol, just wasnt up to par.

yeah that is what i am worried about it is that i watched them on the today show and thought gwen didnt sound very good at all. i was hoping it was just the sound.

TheScoop, what did you think of them when you saw the show? does gwen sound a lot better when you see her live? my friend has a 12th row ticket to see them near pittsburgh so i might just not bother with ac and go to the show. i have been looking up hotels near the boardwalk and they are just so expensive for friday and saturday night so i might save the cash for a future visit to ocean city for the weekend.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by David

That gig was one of the better ones that year!

I'm enjoying following their current tour here. I think it's neat. I don't have any interest in listening to or watching the band, but the fact that they're on the road again & apparently selling all these hundreds of thousands of tickets is cool.

They're all old farts now, just like me. But they're still doing their thing. And it's pretty amazing that all these young ledgies & so many other kids idolize them & know all their songs.

Knock it off!!!

[Nico]

Originally Posted by TheScoop

Having seen both Fleetwood Mac and No Doubt already this year, do yourself a favor and go to the No Doubt show. You'll pay half as much for tickets for a concert ten times more entertaining from a frontwoman who still genuinely appreciates her fans and puts on a kickass show.

I am going to see No Doubt. I love Gwen Stefani, and have for a long time. I think she's totally original, love her music and spunk, and find her incredibly beautiful. I can not for the life of me see her as a 40 year-old mother-of-two. She seems half her age.

[Angel69]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Are you people insane? Since when does getting a cold automatically mean that you hate touring or that you are unhappy with the band or that the tour has been otherwise miserable? Where are you getting this impression from? From all accounts (in the press anyway), she is thrilled to be back on the road and touring with Fleetwood Mac. Admittedly, some of the scheduling was tough and the boot heels were too high. The fact remains that Mama is only human and she will get sick every once in a while. I'm sure she is utterly horrified that she is letting down her fans and her band (as well as untold others impacted financially), but unfortunately there is only so much she can do in a diminished state. Can you imagine how agonizing it must have been to do those last two shows knowing that her voice was a bit out of control? I'm sure she must have died a little when her voice cracked during "Storms." Mama is a singer and just a singer in the live setting, so she has to be on her "A" game when it comes to her vocals. It's not like she can mask mediocre singing with histrionic instrumental prowess (cough, cough). She is a born performer. She loves what she does. She loves her band. So don't heckle her while she is down. Let's all chill and wait until she bounces back before we all start prognosticating the band's demise again.

Good job. We all seem to be forgetting that Stevie has often been tagged as aloof, distant, non-commited and many other adjectives as far back as the Rumours tour. From the shows I have seen (5) she has sounded VERY good and was definitely into the show. I do feel however that she herself does not want the show to be the 'Stevie" show so yeah she does hold a little back. Stevie has always stated that FM performances and solo performances are two different things.

In FM Stevie is (and knows she is) part of the group. Solo is just Stevie so she goes all out, for the most part. And we cannot blame her for the fact that when she walks onto a stage (no matter who it is with) there is an undeniable magnetism that draws you to her. I have heard this from casual fans such as friends, cousins who have come to shows with me. So lets keep our finger crossed that whatever is going on is correctable, and refrain from calling Shady Pines just yet.

[David]

Originally Posted by Angel69

And we cannot blame her for the fact that when she walks onto a stage (no matter who it is with) there is an undeniable magnetism that draws you to her.

~*~ There is magic . . . all around her . . . every time . . . she walks . . . in the room . . . ~*~


FEEL BETTER SOON, STEVIE!
(If Christine came back, she'd feel better.)

[Musicman408]

I hate to hear about all of this- it really is truly sad.

Did they really not do Silver Springs?

What did they end up closing the show with?

[FM77]

Don't Stop was the closer...