Mick Fleetwood: "This is the best time to see Fleetwood Mac" *setlist spoiler*

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by John Run

I have had very little interest in seeing this tour, but some of the song choices seem interesting to me. I think people are getting a little too caught up in the definition of a hit, I think it is more like fan familiarity.

Agreed. I said it before, if it were strictly "hits," you can say goodbye to anything off of SYW, The Chain, I'm So Afraid, Gold Dust Woman, most of Tusk, and so on. Someone said "Classics" the other day and I think that is a much more appropriate word for what we will hear on this tour. It's going to be popular tracks both from a chart standpoint as well as fan familiarity (GDW, The Chain, etc), along with a mix of some dusted off classics and probably a couple of buried songs seeing the light of day for the first time ever (a la Silver Springs in '97, Beautiful Child in '03).

[wheart]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Whatever. This wouldn't be the first time Mick has talked out of his ass. In fact, he may have kicked his hyperbole up a notch due to the stultifying lack of success in selling a tour where Fleetwood Mac FINALLY does its Greatest Hits!

I wouldn't be as surprised if they played these songs on March 1st, but will they be playing these songs ten dates into the tour? As recent history has shown, if you want to make sure you see all the songs the band will ever do live in concert, go to opening night, because they may never do them again!

I thought of this, too. Remember Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden on the last tour. If memory serves me, they were dropped after the first show. But I'm REALLY hoping this won't be the case this time around

[GypsyGirl15]

I'm still praying for Sisters, I'm really psyched about the confirmed songs though.

[HejiraNYC]

So considering all that we have learned about the 2009 setlist so far, as well as the songs they have already played to death in the past, I think we can be about 90% certain that this will be the setlist (sequence may vary... somewhat):

1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Second Hand News
4. Monday Morning
5. Rhiannon
6. Oh Well
7. Gypsy
8. Go Insane
9. Sara
10. Never Going Back Again
11. Say You Love Me
12. Big Love
13. Landslide
14. Gold Dust Woman
15. I'm So Afraid
16. Silver Springs
17. Tusk
18. Stand Back
19. Go Your Own Way
20. World Turning
21. Don't Stop
22. Storms

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

So considering all that we have learned about the 2009 setlist so far, as well as the songs they have already played to death in the past, I think we can be about 90% certain that this will be the setlist (sequence may vary... somewhat):

1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Second Hand News
4. Monday Morning
5. Rhiannon
6. Oh Well
7. Gypsy
8. Go Insane
9. Sara
10. Never Going Back Again
11. Say You Love Me
12. Big Love
13. Landslide
14. Gold Dust Woman
15. I'm So Afraid
16. Silver Springs
17. Tusk
18. Stand Back
19. Go Your Own Way
20. World Turning
21. Don't Stop
22. Storms

I think Storms is gunna be in the acoustic set after Say You Love Me. Mick talked about a "cocktail kit" he is going to be using and he said he is going to use it for Say You Love Me and Storms.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Agreed. I said it before, if it were strictly "hits," you can say goodbye to anything off of SYW, The Chain, I'm So Afraid, Gold Dust Woman, most of Tusk, and so on.

Both "Peacekeeper" & the title cut got fairly significant airplay, so I'm not counting out "anything off of SYW". "The Chain" has been used as the theme for a couple of TV shows, AND it's basically the unofficial theme song of Fleetwood Mac. "Tusk", "Sara" (along with "Think About Me" & "Sisters Of The Moon") were the singles from the Tusk album. I believe "Storms" was a B-side of one of them, but I'm not 100% sure. "I'm So Afraid" & "Gold Dust Woman" WERE single B-sides, so if the single was a "hit", people would be MORE than familiar with the B-side as well. With "Silver Springs" being an obvious case-in-point. For the first couple of months after the GYOW single was released, "Silver Springs" got nearly equal airplay. It disappeared off the airwaves once Rumours was released, and fell into near obscurity until the Timespace controversy and then bloomed again for The Dance.

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

3. Second Hand News
4. Monday Morning

I hope somebody in the band has the good sense to not play "Second Hand News" & "Monday Morning" back-to-back.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by pattyfan

Well, so much for not knowing the setlist. Dang!

OH, and just so I understand...when did Storms become a hit? I mean, I know Tusk was a long time ago, but...

Kevin

Couldn't resist peeking, huh?

And as much as I would love to hear Storms, you're right. Not a "hit." Not that I only want to hear "hits," so it will be a nice surprise if it actually happens.

Originally Posted by wheart

I thought of this, too. Remember Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden on the last tour. If memory serves me, they were dropped after the first show. But I'm REALLY hoping this won't be the case this time around

Destiny Rules made it a few shows I think. Not many.

Originally Posted by chiliD

Both "Peacekeeper" & the title cut got fairly significant airplay, so I'm not counting out "anything off of SYW". "The Chain" has been used as the theme for a couple of TV shows, AND it's basically the unofficial theme song of Fleetwood Mac. "Tusk", "Sara" (along with "Think About Me" & "Sisters Of The Moon") were the singles from the Tusk album. I believe "Storms" was a B-side of one of them, but I'm not 100% sure. "I'm So Afraid" & "Gold Dust Woman" WERE single B-sides, so if the single was a "hit", people would be MORE than familiar with the B-side as well. With "Silver Springs" being an obvious case-in-point. For the first couple of months after the GYOW single was released, "Silver Springs" got nearly equal airplay. It disappeared off the airwaves once Rumours was released, and fell into near obscurity until the Timespace controversy and then bloomed again for The Dance.



I hope somebody in the band has the good sense to not play "Second Hand News" & "Monday Morning" back-to-back.

I truly believe they could play almost anything off Rumours & casual fans will at least be familiar with it - enough to dance & possibly sing along to & not get up and leave to pee. Possible exception being IDWK. So it woul;dn't have to be a single or a song that charted - The Chain is very commonly known, like you said. It does beg the question of just WTF they are doing calling this a "hits" tour - what defines a hit vs. a signature song vs. a deep cut? It's all very subjective. But to say fans won't have to sit through songs they won't recognize & then claim they'll do Storms? Hmmm.....

ITA about MM & SHN. They're too similar to my ears. As much as I enjoy both tunes, they're practically interchangeable in a set. I feel they shuold do 1 or the other, but not both - and definitely NOT back to back.

[David]

Originally Posted by skcin

It does beg the question of just WTF they are doing calling this a "hits" tour - what defines a hit vs. a signature song vs. a deep cut?

It's the Hits 'n' Staples Tour. It doesn't have to have been on a Billboard chart -- if the band's been playing it live for thirty years, they're going to play it again! The idea of the tour (if you can call it an idea) is to play stuff that people recognize. Stevie doesn't want to play stuff that's on a new album. That's all they mean by "hits." We're being too literal-minded.

The other thing I wanted to say: How would you guys feel if they played "Sister Golden Hair" instead of "Sister of the Moon"?

[kennation]

I said they should call it, "You may remember this one," Tour... So many people that I have talked with think it will be a lot like the Dance Tour

[bucklind17]

I was at MSG for a different show last night and they had these little magazines on all the seats. The FM mention in that magazine was definitely using the word "classic" and not the word "hit".

[Phil]

I'm very excited by the inclusion of Storms - that's if it actually makes it out of rehearsal - but I can't believe people want to hear World Turning, Oh Well, Go Insane and Stand Back.
World Turning has always been boring and is stretched out to interminable length in concert, "climaxing" in Mick's tossing-off session. Such a dull song on record and even more mind-numbing live. Bury it.
Oh Well belongs to another incarnation of the band and should remain there. If they really feel the need to resurrect a classic from that early period, why not go for something truly wonderful like Love The Burns, Man Of The World (with a Stevie lead vocal!) or I Loved Another Woman?
As for Go Insane and Stand Back, these are not Mac songs/hits. No matter how much anyone might enjoy these songs, they are inappropriate at a Mac show - particularly at the exclusion of genuine Mac hits/classics like Angel, Sisters Of The Moon, Hold Me and Seven Wonders. (If Lindsey really feels the need to perform one of his solo "hits" at a Mac show, then surely Trouble would be the better choice - this always sounded more Fleetwood Mac than solo to these ears.)
I'm really counting on a full band version of Big Love and Stevie taking the lead on Oh Daddy - if these occur, along with Storms, it really could be a classic show.
PS If I had my way, I'd drop all the old warhorses (Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Don't Stop etc) but I realise this would be unrealistic. What I would like to see is for the songs to be played at similar length to their original studio versions - I don't need to hear a three minute intro to Go Your Own Way or a five minute outro on I'm So Afraid - boring old bastards.

[Peestie]

The most outlandish thing they're playing is Go Insane with the full band and that is neither a Fleetwood Mac song nor the first time it has been played with that arrangement. It worked fine on Lindsey's solo tour but adding the "Fleetwood Mac orchestra" to it can only make it too cluttered. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong but since they're going to drop it after a night or two it hardly matters.

[David]

Originally Posted by Phil

World Turning has always been boring and is stretched out to interminable length in concert, "climaxing" in Mick's tossing-off session.

It's been boring only since 1987. From 1980 & earlier, it was hot. You got to hear the actual members of Fleetwood Mac playing their instruments in a really pumping way. They pumped, man, they pumped.

Oh Well belongs to another incarnation of the band and should remain there. If they really feel the need to resurrect a classic from that early period, why not go for something truly wonderful like Love The Burns, Man Of The World (with a Stevie lead vocal!) or I Loved Another Woman?

I'd like to hear "Before the Beginning," my favorite.

PS If I had my way, I'd drop all the old warhorses (Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Don't Stop etc)

Yeah, I would too.

[kennation]

Imagine this: I love the set list and I am totally psyched about world turning!!! It is one of my favorites live, and I prefer the newer performances.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by David

The other thing I wanted to say: How would you guys feel if they played "Sister Golden Hair" instead of "Sister of the Moon"?

I'd laugh my ass off with that!

Originally Posted by kennation

I said they should call it, "You may remember this one," Tour... So many people that I have talked with think it will be a lot like the Dance Tour

They should call it the We're In It For The Money Tour (though I think some band already did that). Actually, The Dance is why this tour is a harder sell for the band with a lot of longtime fans. Been there, done that.