The Thing that You Miss Most About from the GoS Demos

GoS · #1 12-10-2008, 08:47 AM

In honor of all of the other, similar threads, I thought that I'd start one about the thing that you liked about the Gift of Screws demos that did not make it onto the official version.

I'd have to say that I liked the chorus of ToF better than TRPtF.

AliceLover · #2 12-10-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoS

In honor of all of the other, similar threads, I thought that I'd start one about the thing that you liked about the Gift of Screws demos that did not make it onto the official version.

I'd have to say that I liked the chorus of ToF better than TRPtF.

I think the demo as a whole was better than what came out on the record. A lot of the bass was cut out on the final product. Plus, all the extra guitar work in the background. And of course I will always love "twist of fate" SOOO much more than "Right Place to Fade", the former just has so much mystery behind it.

Peestie · #3 12-10-2008, 01:53 PM

I miss the lack of Stevie on most of the tracks that ended up on SYW.

What do you mean about the chorus of TOF v. RPTF? He cut the lead guitar in the first chorus and the loud, distorted rhythm guitar if brought way up to the front instead of the tremelo-ed rhythm one in the demo (which I guess I miss, even though it's still there). Apart from that it's exactly the same tracks used as in the "demo" but it's just mixed (slightly) differently.

Apart from the addition of Stevie to the SYW tracks and the remixing of RPTF and GOS all the tracks are exactly the same as the demo version except they've been mastered. All the mixes are exactly the same. GOS and RPTF are slightly different but not much.

shackin'up · #4 12-10-2008, 02:12 PM

I miss Given Thing.

michelej1 · #5 12-10-2008, 02:19 PM

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I miss Given Thing.

Me too and Deep Dense.

Also, this is not related to GOS, but I miss the demo versions of My Little Demon. I think the entire mood of the song was changed for The Dance. I think the finished product was less gritty and wicked.

Michele

shackin'up · #6 12-10-2008, 02:31 PM

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I think the finished product was less gritty and wicked.

True. Although it still is a song from a auditive comicbook he once should release.

GoS · #7 12-10-2008, 02:47 PM

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I miss Given Thing.

Tell me about it. Does anyone have Deep Dense, MLD, and (especially) GT demo 1?

I think also that he may have cut a synth from the chorus of TRPTF . ND OF COURSE HE IS STILL SAYING "Twist of fate"

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Peestie · #8 12-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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I think also that he may have cut a synth from the chorus of TRPTF . ND OF COURSE HE IS STILL SAYING "Twist of fate"

Hmm, maybe he did. I'll have to go back and give it a closer listen but it's not something I noticed before.

I bought my friend a signed copy of GOS at the shows and he had never heard the demo of TOF before so he shouldn't hear "twist of fate" being sung so I'll ask him tomorrow if he thinks it sounds like that. I know we all think it still sounds like TOF (though I'm starting to sway my opinion) but I wonder if someone else who thinks he's singing RPTF will think it sounds more like TOF... I'll report back

GoS · #9 12-10-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peestie

Hmm, maybe he did. I'll have to go back and give it a closer listen but it's not something I noticed before.

I bought my friend a signed copy of GOS at the shows and he had never heard the demo of TOF before so he shouldn't hear "twist of fate" being sung so I'll ask him tomorrow if he thinks it sounds like that. I know we all think it still sounds like TOF (though I'm starting to sway my opinion) but I wonder if someone else who thinks he's singing RPTF will think it sounds more like TOF... I'll report back

I never noticed it until I went back and listened to it recently.

I think he says both at one point or another.

(Sorry about my last post's caps and gibberish and stuff, I have just learned not to post when I other people are near the computer)

LukeA · #10 12-10-2008, 09:20 PM

Two big ones.

I flat out refuse to listen to the SYW version of Say Goodbye- Stevie's vocal is obnoxious. While I understand the fact that the song's subject matter & overall sentiment made it a logical choice for a duet, for me, it just doesn't get any better than the GOS version.

Lindsey butchered Try For The Sun- not just by inexplicably removing the incredible guitar outro and final "mirror, mirror in the sky...", but also the change to the vocals on the chorus. In other words, he successfully neutered anything that would have made it stand out on UTS, where as it is now, it sounds almost identical to at least half the songs on the album.

stevierocks87 · #11 12-10-2008, 09:35 PM

As a whole, I feel that the original GOS we had was Lindsey's best album, and almost would have prefered it to the songs changed and distributed amongst SYW, UTS, and the new GOS. The original TFTS was better, and what on EARTH were they thinking when they utterly drained the life out of Lindsey's solo "Peacekeeper"- It is ROCKIN'.

Hawkeye · #12 12-11-2008, 12:09 AM

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As a whole, I feel that the original GOS we had was Lindsey's best album, and almost would have prefered it to the songs changed and distributed amongst SYW, UTS, and the new GOS. The original TFTS was better, and what on EARTH were they thinking when they utterly drained the life out of Lindsey's solo "Peacekeeper"- It is ROCKIN'.

Well Peacekeeper wasn't part of the original Gift of Screws, but I agree they drained the life out of it for SYW. It's not just Steviem the whole song is just taken a down a notch for some odd reason.

LukeA · #13 12-11-2008, 02:39 AM

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Well Peacekeeper wasn't part of the original Gift of Screws, but I agree they drained the life out of it for SYW.

While it's true that it wasn't on the leaked GOS CD, it was recorded in 2000, and was absolutely slated to be on the version of GOS that was to be released in early summer '01.

GoS · #14 12-11-2008, 09:41 AM

I haven't heard the Peacekeeper demo, but I have heard amazing things about it, an anyone share?

zzagar · #15 12-11-2008, 09:48 AM

Singer Not the Song. Not sure if it was even slated to be released with GOS, but I think it was recorded around that time...

I wouldn't mind some of the Stones covers as well. Lets face it, I Am Waiting is way better on Soundstage than on UTS... the ANGST is missing once he "softened it". (I still wouldn't mind hearing the full SYW demo version either).

Blue Turns To Grey would've been a nice addition to UTS.

Still no clear answer on the rumo(u)r that there's a recorded version of "She's a Rainbow"...