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ajmccarrell · #31 09-12-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Yea -- well, none of them to my knowledge ever fired a public librarian because they said they would not ban a book based on the ideals of a public official

Clinton fired the entire cabinet of US Attorneys because they disagreed with him politically. Yet, Gonzales was thrown under the bus for firing 6. Definite double standard here.

It happens on both sides. Both had an absolute right to fire anyone they wished. Universities have bans on convservatives from speaking.

strandinthewind · #32 09-12-2008, 04:06 PM

Please read MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...ol=5&invol=137

Here is a good insight into it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison

Please note the Federalist regime's manipulation of the law in this case

In the end and since 1803, the Court has had the ability to pronounce things Unconstitutional. Other than Roe, which you do not agree with, the system has worked fairly well; many have benefited from it. Moreover, without the review created in Marbury, supra, the 64 Civil Rights Act (the very one you think or at least (hopefully) thought the R's were responsible for

) -- would never have come about. So, while I readily agree that Justice Blackmun went bouncing thorough the Constituion with poms poms cheering P R I V A C Y -- how is the created right (which clearly is implied) such a bad thing

What harm has it caused? True, many fetus' have been destroyed under it which many consider a bad act against an innocent - but holding that aside (after all I consider that a call between the mother and her maker) - what truly awful things have happened since the creation of the right to privacy? I suggest it has been overwhelmingly good in its application. Same with the Equal Protection and Due Process clauses. Again, some abuse has taken place and that is bad, but the end result generally is that we are a freer society with less govt. interference. So, I am willing to take the hit on the academic Federalist argument. How about you? In other words, other than that academic argument and some abuse of the system, hasn't Marbury been mostly stellar in its applications?

strandinthewind · #33 09-12-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Clinton fired the entire cabinet of US Attorneys because they disagreed with him politically. Yet, Gonzales was thrown under the bus for firing 6. Definite double standard here.

It happens on both sides. Both had an absolute right to fire anyone they wished. Universities have bans on convservatives from speaking.

Do you ever read history? Here's a hint "to the victor belongs the spoils"

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . Universities have bans on convservatives from speaking.

Please cite specific examples

ajmccarrell · #34 09-12-2008, 04:10 PM

The central philosophy may be the same of States Rights, but the Federalist Society certainly has evolved since 1803. Try going to a meeting. You might be enlightened. Why don't you go to their website for their statement of positions instead of a case from 1803 that has very little to do with the current party.

I mean, the democratic party today is VERY different from the democratic party 100 years ago, so why would the federalist party be the same as it was 200 years ago?

What you essentially saying in the rest of your statement is, "ignore all the wrecks this car has been involved in and the fact that it is missing an engine, it's still a Porsche".

ajmccarrell · #35 09-12-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Do you ever read history? Here's a hint "to the victor belongs the spoils"

Please cite specific examples

Google it yourself.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/...er-speaker-ok/

http://www.academia.org/campus_repor...ry_2003_7.html

Both McCain and Rice have also been sent home after invitations to speak due to faculty protests.

ajmccarrell · #36 09-12-2008, 04:21 PM

Here's more!

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/05/...honor-mukasey/

strandinthewind · #37 09-12-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Google it yourself.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/...er-speaker-ok/

http://www.academia.org/campus_repor...ry_2003_7.html

Both McCain and Rice have also been sent home after invitations to speak due to faculty protests.

My point was that both have been banned

But, in http://www.academia.org/campus_repor...ry_2003_7.html

The stated reasons for banning the student newspaper included the publication's policy of accepting off-campus donations and its establishment of a non-profit entity. The university also claimed the publication lacked a faculty advisor, which the paper's editors dispute.

- - the Justice appeared to be unwilling to comply with the rules for being on campus. Thus, it is their own fault and not some banning of the content.

By your own argument earlier regarding Roe, the Justice should have lobbied to change the University's rules. The "court" in this case applied the rule as written, which you should be proud of

In the other one, there is not enough info. in the article and I haven't the time to google it.

Brwn_eyes0511 · #38 09-12-2008, 06:35 PM

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Well I suppose there were some Jewish folks who even voted for Hitler when he ran for Chancellor in 1932.

Yes, I'm much like a Nazi!

strandinthewind · #39 09-12-2008, 06:55 PM

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Yes, I'm much like a Nazi!

Well, you dress like one

BombaySapphire3 · #40 09-12-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Yes, I'm much like a Nazi!

Wasn't calling you a Nazi ...I was making an analogy between a Jewish person voting for Hitler and a happily out gay person voting for a religiously preoccupied harpy that was going to fire a librarian for not taking a positive gay themed book off the shelves ..you figure it out from there.

Brwn_eyes0511 · #41 09-12-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Wasn't calling you a Nazi ...I was making an analogy between a Jewish person voting for Hitler and a happily out gay person voting for a religiously preoccupied harpy that was going to fire a librarian for not taking a positive gay themed book off the shelves ..you figure it out from there.

This is just getting tiresome for me. I no longer have the energy.. nor do I feel that I have the need to explain my being a gay conservative; I have to do it much to often with my friends

. It's a concept that is misunderstood by the left.. and nothing I nor anyone else can say will ever change that. You stand on your side.. and I shall stand on mine and we'll keep fighting the "good fight" I suppose!

Brwn_eyes0511 · #42 09-12-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, you dress like one

Meh.. Too much camel, not a good color for me.

I'd consider my esthtic more Cape Cod Casual.. think J.Crew.

I can't help it I'm a preppy boy!

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As for the video.. very cute! Never much into the bondage. But that is a discussion for a later time.. perhaps over drinks.

strandinthewind · #43 09-12-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

. . . As for the video.. very cute! Never much into the bondage. But that is a discussion for a later time.. perhaps over drinks.

I am into NM (Neiman Marcus) not S&M

Brwn_eyes0511 · #44 09-12-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am into NM (Neiman Marcus) not S&M

Nordstrom fan here.. but perhaps thats because I work for them. Well.. them AND Bobbi Brown

strandinthewind · #45 09-12-2008, 08:54 PM

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Nordstrom fan here.. but perhaps thats because I work for them. Well.. them AND Bobbi Brown

I like Nordy's -- actually, I have not been shopping in awhile, though I was in Harvey Nic's a week or so ago.

I am kind of off clothes right now. I need to lose some weight before I will buy anything LOL.