MTV's VMAs - I'm officially old

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Well to be fair, politics and social issues have always been a part of popular music. Back to Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie and the blues. Even further back with classical music. It's not exactly a new thing to combine the two.

The thing about music and politics is that what you are saying is that the music itself was about politics, which is all well and fine, but turning an awards show into a political event is different. BTW I am a huge fan of some of the musicians that are also political, like the Smothers Brothers. Their show made no bones about being political and I thought it was great, because it wasn't supposed to be anything else or impartial in any way. An awards show is supposed to be about the musicians being honored. I mean, if Neil Young wins an award for his work on FarmAid and he says something during his acceptance about US farm policy, that's also okay because that is what he won an award for. What is supposed to be an impartial host giving unsolicited opinions is another. BTW another little known fact about Mason Williams is that he was the first guy to book Pete Seeger on a TV show after he was blacklisted.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Enchanted_Stevi

She didnt do anything other then read the teleprompter at the beginning of the show

Hey Caitlin..

Really??? We saw her accepting one of her two awards that she won, and she looked GREAT! She didn't seem to be reading off of anything then, but again, it was just a "clip" that they showed on E-news this morning..LOL

[Enchanted_Stevi]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

Hey Caitlin..

Really??? We saw her accepting one of her two awards that she won, and she looked GREAT! She didn't seem to be reading off of anything then, but again, it was just a "clip" that they showed on E-news this morning..LOL

Oh yea she accepted 2 awards...Thats not really a come-back...I would say performing a kick ass song would have been a better come-back

[bucklind17]

The Jonas Brothers weird me out live, but their music is pretty catchy. I oddly like their first album the best (the one that tanked when originally released) and I really can't stand most of anything Joe sings lead on but the dudes know how to write pop music. As a Hanson fan though, I must throw in that they have a ways to go to be as good as Hanson was and continues to be. If they're making albums as good as Hanson's most recent in the next few years, I'll happily be buying.

[GoldDustOrphan]

Britney actually won three awards, not two. Best female, Best Pop Video and Video of the Year.

The show opened with a comedic bit featuring Britney and Jonah Hill from Superbad.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

Britney actually won three awards, not two. Best female, Best Pop Video and Video of the Year.

The show opened with a comedic bit featuring Britney and Jonah Hill from Superbad.

Oh cool!! I'm just glad she's getting her act together, or at least it's looking that way.

[omigodstevie]

I'm sorry, I am just not a Britney Spears fan anymore.
I thought the opening skit thing was very unfunny, her 'intro' was terrible (Especially since she held that mike right in front of her face. C'mon, she knows better then that!), and I feel like her awards were, to be frank, out of pity. Video of the year? Really. Really? I truly think she wouldn't have gotten that award if people didn't want her to have a huge 'comeback'. The song itself is just machinery, she sings one note over and over again, and in the video all she does is hold her arms up and sway back and forth. What a joke.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Enchanted_Stevi

Oh yea she accepted 2 awards...Thats not really a come-back...I would say performing a kick ass song would have been a better come-back

Hey Caitlin..

To me, for Brit winning any awards here lately seem like steps in the right direction, you know? Not too long ago we were watching her flake out and going to the hospital on some stretcher, so from that point "A" to last night's point "B" I think that's what I consider a pretty good come back..IMO

[Phoenix]

annother midtwentees frustrated with music here
Nice to know theres so manny of us here on the ledge. k, so My Biggest complaint, and largest annoyance. the show was soooooo totally "unprofessional" were was the mike for Demi Moore? she actually had to ask for a mike. Jamie Fox coming in waaaaaaay before que going "are we ready" and lookin around I dont know, the whole thing was just SLOPPY.
ALSO? fall out boy's vid singing... "beat it"? Katy perry singing "like a vergin"? kid rocks new song? a shameless rip off of warren zeverons warewolves of london!
I remember when people used to have "ideas". Not rehash. Christinas new mix of jeannie in a bottl was a cool one, but common, jeannie in a bottle, what is this 98?
I LOVE "Superstar" by lupe Fiasco, and they cut off him and that other guy who was singing to advertize for TACO FREEKIN BELL!!
THEN!!!! Cut to a comercial of Chris Brown selling a new flavor of gum.
THat weirdo host cutt off that guy from Twilights intro. and IM SOOO freeking sick of Lil Wayne, and that other guy it was like watching two guys in their living room on youtube. only thinking good lord, THESE two are MILLIONARES.

THe positives..
Pink was pretty cool, so was Rhianna, only her preformance was short. THE Jonas brothers handled themselves with class. they really did. and good for Jordan Sparks too. ALSO!! (last one i promise) Brittney Spears did nothing wierd or cooky, and uttered compleete sentences and was the most normal ive ever seen her. good for her.

[Chrislit18]

Steviefan 49-
Yeah, I just don't think that politics really have a place 100% of the time. I like that some SONGS have political messages [Like in the 1960s and 70s], but now? Most people write about sex [or in the JoBros case, not having it], Love, Money, or Drugs [from Alcohol to any illegal]. I wouldn't have cared if someone like Kanye West came out with a rap to endorse Obama or McCain, but Just the fact that Brand [someone who's from Britain...and as far as I know not a US citizen] had to go out of his way to say 'elect Obama' while reading his monoluge for a music show just bugged me.

I still though stand by my point as one vote doesn't count, it doesn't matter in anyway. Therefore I refuse to vote until something is done about the way the president is elected. [They aren't even inagurated until Jan, so if in Nov they do pop vote and it takes 3 weeks or whatever to get the final count, then what the hell? then its what the country wants, not the EC].

Besides that I want someone who agrees with me on all my issue standpoints...yet I am wayy more republican than Demo, except on abortion.

Phoenix, thank you for saying wtf about Lil Wayne...I can't believe that someone who wears his pants so low makes so much money...plus it bugs me that kids at my school think hes 'fyne' [quote from like 10 kids myspaces that go to my school].

I really truthfully LOVE the Jonas Brothers. I used to be ashamed to admit this, but not so much. I was 5 when the Hanson thing came out, and I didn't like them very much, but the JoBros are like the OP said, Hanson 2.0, but IMO with better songs. I listen to 'Burnin Up' like every day. It is seriously my favorite song of the year. [and should have beat Brit in the best video of the year catagory]. I hate Joe with a fiery passion. I hate how the girls think he's cute, he's not. He thinks he's the leader of the group, and it's actually Nick. I like Kevin the best though. I think he's the best looking [plus he always has the guitar *sigh*...I have a thing for guitar players...yeah...], and he stays out of the spotlight unlike his two attention hungry brothers. Plus Kevin is the only one who isn't dating some high prof teen idol. [Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez]. I am seriously going to check them out the next time they tour around MA. [I can like the music but not the people :P]

I skipped out before Miley Cyrus. I think she's a little skank. [My mom and I make fun of her sooo much...]

I wish I would have saw Brit win her other two awards though. I loved her when I was 8, and I love her now, 8 years later.
I hope she kicks ass with the next record she realeases<3

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

I skipped out before Miley Cyrus. I think she's a little skank. [My mom and I make fun of her sooo much...]

See, I like Miley because she's a little skank. She's probably sings about stuff in her life, unlike the Jonas Brothers. I find them hipocrites...singing about love and ****, when they are so 'pure'. If you think it, you might as well do it.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

Steviefan 49-
Yeah, I just don't think that politics really have a place 100% of the time. I like that some SONGS have political messages [Like in the 1960s and 70s], but now? Most people write about sex [or in the JoBros case, not having it], Love, Money, or Drugs [from Alcohol to any illegal]. I wouldn't have cared if someone like Kanye West came out with a rap to endorse Obama or McCain, but Just the fact that Brand [someone who's from Britain...and as far as I know not a US citizen] had to go out of his way to say 'elect Obama' while reading his monoluge for a music show just bugged me.

I still though stand by my point as one vote doesn't count, it doesn't matter in anyway. Therefore I refuse to vote until something is done about the way the president is elected. [They aren't even inagurated until Jan, so if in Nov they do pop vote and it takes 3 weeks or whatever to get the final count, then what the hell? then its what the country wants, not the EC].

Besides that I want someone who agrees with me on all my issue standpoints...yet I am wayy more republican than Demo, except on abortion.

Phoenix, thank you for saying wtf about Lil Wayne...I can't believe that someone who wears his pants so low makes so much money...plus it bugs me that kids at my school think hes 'fyne' [quote from like 10 kids myspaces that go to my school].

I really truthfully LOVE the Jonas Brothers. I used to be ashamed to admit this, but not so much. I was 5 when the Hanson thing came out, and I didn't like them very much, but the JoBros are like the OP said, Hanson 2.0, but IMO with better songs. I listen to 'Burnin Up' like every day. It is seriously my favorite song of the year. [and should have beat Brit in the best video of the year catagory]. I hate Joe with a fiery passion. I hate how the girls think he's cute, he's not. He thinks he's the leader of the group, and it's actually Nick. I like Kevin the best though. I think he's the best looking [plus he always has the guitar *sigh*...I have a thing for guitar players...yeah...], and he stays out of the spotlight unlike his two attention hungry brothers. Plus Kevin is the only one who isn't dating some high prof teen idol. [Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez]. I am seriously going to check them out the next time they tour around MA. [I can like the music but not the people :P]

I skipped out before Miley Cyrus. I think she's a little skank. [My mom and I make fun of her sooo much...]

I wish I would have saw Brit win her other two awards though. I loved her when I was 8, and I love her now, 8 years later.
I hope she kicks ass with the next record she realeases<3

Hey Christine..

Awww.. I know.. It's sorta sad about the politics deal, but what can we do, you know? I'm just glad I don't waste my time on those VMA's or any of those award shows anymore, really.. I, like someone else, do watch the Oscars, as that is always a fun one.. LOL..

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

I wouldn't have cared if someone like Kanye West came out with a rap to endorse Obama or McCain, but Just the fact that Brand [someone who's from Britain...and as far as I know not a US citizen] had to go out of his way to say 'elect Obama' while reading his monoluge for a music show just bugged me.

Who is president in the US affects pretty much the whole world.
I laughed when I saw the footage, because, tbh, it's what a lot of people outside the States are thinking.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

See, I like Miley because she's a little skank. She's probably sings about stuff in her life, unlike the Jonas Brothers. I find them hipocrites...singing about love and ****, when they are so 'pure'. If you think it, you might as well do it.

I saw the Jonas Brothers today in the lobby of a hotel in London. They are really tiny in the flesh and they had this ridiculously massive entourage surrounding them. It was kinda funny.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Who is president in the US affects pretty much the whole world.
I laughed when I saw the footage, because, tbh, it's what a lot of people outside the States are thinking.

For the same reason the Axis powers loved Neville Chamberlain.